1 00:00:08,570 --> 00:00:02,240 you're locked into inception radio 2 00:00:13,430 --> 00:00:08,580 network superior Wisconsin for aliens to 3 00:00:18,859 --> 00:00:13,440 ghosts demons a dream from shadow people 4 00:00:41,010 --> 00:00:18,869 to the outlandish heidi hollis the 5 00:00:45,820 --> 00:00:43,810 welcome welcome everybody to my awesome 6 00:00:48,820 --> 00:00:45,830 friday evening your listen to me honey 7 00:00:51,670 --> 00:00:48,830 how's the outlander welcome to the show 8 00:00:55,540 --> 00:00:51,680 get comfortable everybody because I sure 9 00:00:58,270 --> 00:00:55,550 AM o Lord you have no idea I mean you 10 00:01:00,310 --> 00:00:58,280 know I'm always a little wacky but today 11 00:01:02,590 --> 00:01:00,320 I am literally driving through the 12 00:01:06,450 --> 00:01:02,600 maddening streets of Chicago because of 13 00:01:09,690 --> 00:01:06,460 some madness downtown on Lakeshore Drive 14 00:01:11,770 --> 00:01:09,700 students oh yeah so if I if you hear a 15 00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:11,780 crashing sound that's not a good thing 16 00:01:18,430 --> 00:01:16,270 now I'm just kidding I'm safe hands-free 17 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:18,440 no but I'm trying to clear my throat 18 00:01:22,930 --> 00:01:19,910 because I still I'm choking with 19 00:01:25,330 --> 00:01:22,940 bronchitis but who gets bronchitis I've 20 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:25,340 never had such a thing so anyways I'm 21 00:01:29,020 --> 00:01:26,210 going to tell you guys a little bit 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:29,030 about this show it shows about bringing 23 00:01:33,940 --> 00:01:31,250 outlandish topics to the forefront I 24 00:01:36,370 --> 00:01:33,950 don't care what's happening if a bat is 25 00:01:39,670 --> 00:01:36,380 in your belfry we're gonna talk about it 26 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:39,680 and conspiracy theories shadow people 27 00:01:43,719 --> 00:01:42,110 happening and you know you know that's 28 00:01:45,790 --> 00:01:43,729 just the way we roll on this show so 29 00:01:48,969 --> 00:01:45,800 we'll touch on anything that's 30 00:01:51,460 --> 00:01:48,979 controversial interesting spooky in all 31 00:01:53,770 --> 00:01:51,470 of the above just because and um you 32 00:01:55,930 --> 00:01:53,780 know if you guys want to learn a little 33 00:01:59,920 --> 00:01:55,940 bit about me please go to my main 34 00:02:04,719 --> 00:01:59,930 website which is heidi hollis calm hei 35 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:04,729 di hol lis and there you will learn that 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:06,710 I am someone who has been there seen 37 00:02:11,350 --> 00:02:09,290 that experience it freaked out found 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:11,360 some answers wrote about it got over it 39 00:02:15,220 --> 00:02:13,730 and now I'm hoping to help other people 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:15,230 do the same thing and understand this 41 00:02:20,410 --> 00:02:17,810 crazy crazy wackadoodle world of ours 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:20,420 because it just makes life interesting 43 00:02:28,449 --> 00:02:24,290 you know I think it's cool so you know I 44 00:02:30,820 --> 00:02:28,459 want to tell you guys you so many of you 45 00:02:34,390 --> 00:02:30,830 listen to this program through a 46 00:02:38,110 --> 00:02:34,400 wonderful irn app inception radio 47 00:02:39,850 --> 00:02:38,120 network app get it it's awesome you 48 00:02:42,370 --> 00:02:39,860 could hear me in your sleep have 49 00:02:45,430 --> 00:02:42,380 nightmares don't think naughty dreams 50 00:02:48,430 --> 00:02:45,440 don't do that don't go there and all of 51 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:48,440 the above I mean the app is awesome and 52 00:02:52,539 --> 00:02:50,930 you can also call a number which i don't 53 00:02:54,010 --> 00:02:52,549 have memorized because i'm driving 54 00:02:57,250 --> 00:02:54,020 through the crazy streets of 55 00:02:59,770 --> 00:02:57,260 shy town and but like my parents they 56 00:03:02,020 --> 00:02:59,780 like to call in listen to the show they 57 00:03:04,990 --> 00:03:02,030 don't have to sit there and figure out 58 00:03:08,020 --> 00:03:05,000 how to listen online or through their 59 00:03:12,010 --> 00:03:08,030 special apps or anything so it's always 60 00:03:15,540 --> 00:03:12,020 cool i like that and this evening i am 61 00:03:18,130 --> 00:03:15,550 not going to do the outlandish corner 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:18,140 just because we have something that's 63 00:03:22,690 --> 00:03:20,210 very very very interesting this evening 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:22,700 that we're going to be discussing that 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:24,890 it's kind of near and dear to my heart 66 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:27,850 but you know first before we go there I 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:45,440 wanted to express my sincere it to of 68 00:03:53,950 --> 00:03:49,610 different of mine who daddy star who was 69 00:03:58,210 --> 00:03:53,960 found killed and a suspected longtime 70 00:04:00,880 --> 00:03:58,220 boyfriend did this and you know you know 71 00:04:04,660 --> 00:04:00,890 when I was in Australia and I was 72 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:04,670 offered a television series and I had no 73 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:08,510 idea what to do this lady tough as nails 74 00:04:17,650 --> 00:04:13,280 a former pro bodybuilder former la cop 75 00:04:19,810 --> 00:04:17,660 who became a lawyer and was just doing 76 00:04:22,540 --> 00:04:19,820 her thing out there in Los Angeles with 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:22,550 her television show that was airing on 78 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:26,090 sundance channel called loredana Esquire 79 00:04:32,020 --> 00:04:29,360 and you know it's tragic she has a 80 00:04:33,850 --> 00:04:32,030 five-year-old son and you know as the 81 00:04:36,490 --> 00:04:33,860 father of the son that did this terror 82 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:36,500 it's just you know it's horrific and I 83 00:04:40,570 --> 00:04:38,570 just want to send my sincerest thoughts 84 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:40,580 and prayers out there to her and her 85 00:04:45,630 --> 00:04:42,650 family that's going through this because 86 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:45,640 it just broke my heart but it issues 87 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:49,520 somebody that you know supported several 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:52,310 people out there and including a good 89 00:04:56,470 --> 00:04:54,410 friend of mine at John Greenwald who let 90 00:04:59,680 --> 00:04:56,480 me know this had occurred you know that 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:04:59,690 you know the black bald guy he's so 92 00:05:04,060 --> 00:05:02,330 awesome and several other people that 93 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:04,070 were involved in the paranormal field 94 00:05:09,850 --> 00:05:07,310 and she had her back you know she 95 00:05:11,950 --> 00:05:09,860 lieved and she stood behind several of 96 00:05:13,540 --> 00:05:11,960 us that were involved in this field and 97 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:13,550 you know that's important and rare to 98 00:05:20,550 --> 00:05:17,180 find and she did that I mean tough as 99 00:05:23,620 --> 00:05:20,560 nails stilettos working it and and just 100 00:05:25,630 --> 00:05:23,630 keeping up with the boys and you know so 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:25,640 my thoughts and prayers to the Lord on 102 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:28,010 an SE and keep doing your thing girl 103 00:05:35,470 --> 00:05:33,050 friend so I wanted to get on to what uh 104 00:05:37,510 --> 00:05:35,480 what our awesome program is going to be 105 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:37,520 about this evening because you know for 106 00:05:42,970 --> 00:05:39,680 those of you who do not know I am a 107 00:05:45,610 --> 00:05:42,980 practicing occupational therapist on top 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:45,620 of all this other madness that i do that 109 00:05:51,940 --> 00:05:47,930 i love and wouldn't change for the world 110 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:51,950 i am in a pediatric occupational 111 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:54,650 therapist side I like to work with 112 00:05:59,320 --> 00:05:56,570 children but I also work with adults and 113 00:06:03,490 --> 00:05:59,330 also those who are afflicted with 114 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:03,500 psychological issues so I span the globe 115 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:05,630 when it comes to occupational therapy 116 00:06:09,940 --> 00:06:08,210 and I really truly enjoy what I do what 117 00:06:11,770 --> 00:06:09,950 occupational therapy is we we help 118 00:06:15,390 --> 00:06:11,780 people with any kind of ailment or 119 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:15,400 disability or injury learn to become 120 00:06:21,940 --> 00:06:18,770 more independent in any way emotional 121 00:06:25,930 --> 00:06:21,950 psychological physical I mean we cover 122 00:06:27,910 --> 00:06:25,940 the gamut so this evening I have a guest 123 00:06:32,110 --> 00:06:27,920 that is going to be speaking about his 124 00:06:36,250 --> 00:06:32,120 newest book I believe it's called autism 125 00:06:38,650 --> 00:06:36,260 Holocaust and what is going on with that 126 00:06:41,170 --> 00:06:38,660 there are so many parents who feel that 127 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:41,180 there is an absolute epidemic when it 128 00:06:47,260 --> 00:06:43,250 comes to children being afflicted with 129 00:06:50,830 --> 00:06:47,270 autism and our guest this evening is 130 00:06:53,950 --> 00:06:50,840 John E Micah who's going to be 131 00:06:56,830 --> 00:06:53,960 discussing this with us now hello John 132 00:06:59,290 --> 00:06:56,840 are you here with us I am Heidi and it's 133 00:07:02,650 --> 00:06:59,300 a pleasure and an honor to be here how 134 00:07:06,580 --> 00:07:02,660 are you I am surviving the streets of 135 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:06,590 Chicago as we speak oh my goodness it's 136 00:07:13,510 --> 00:07:08,210 it's been interesting let me tell you 137 00:07:17,050 --> 00:07:13,520 but such as my life I have a I you know 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:17,060 I'm really truly truly fascinated by 139 00:07:21,140 --> 00:07:19,370 your taking on the challenge of such a 140 00:07:22,670 --> 00:07:21,150 big topic of 141 00:07:24,830 --> 00:07:22,680 turn but I want people to know a little 142 00:07:27,950 --> 00:07:24,840 bit about you well what your background 143 00:07:30,410 --> 00:07:27,960 is and what got you interested and 144 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:30,420 involved in this topic well first of all 145 00:07:35,420 --> 00:07:32,310 let me just say that I am the father of 146 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:35,430 an autistic child and he was diagnosed 147 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:38,250 as he told me when he was 14 years of 148 00:07:43,790 --> 00:07:40,650 age that had Asperger's syndrome I'd 149 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:43,800 never heard of it that was in 2001 and 150 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:45,930 he lived with his primary caregiver went 151 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:48,080 through a painful divorce which only 152 00:07:54,530 --> 00:07:51,530 exacerbated the situation and to 153 00:07:56,870 --> 00:07:54,540 communications through him and absence 154 00:07:59,780 --> 00:07:56,880 of a period of absence I educated myself 155 00:08:04,010 --> 00:07:59,790 on everything I could about Asperger's 156 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:04,020 and as it turned out the more I dug into 157 00:08:09,860 --> 00:08:06,120 it the more I found it was pretty 158 00:08:12,220 --> 00:08:09,870 startling so and and I was helping my 159 00:08:14,780 --> 00:08:12,230 dad actually write a book on autism and 160 00:08:18,140 --> 00:08:14,790 that never got published but I went on 161 00:08:20,030 --> 00:08:18,150 to look at the Oversight Committee on 162 00:08:22,610 --> 00:08:20,040 Government Reform hearing I focused on 163 00:08:25,970 --> 00:08:22,620 that to start with and that was a eye 164 00:08:28,610 --> 00:08:25,980 opener let me tell you a lot of people 165 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:28,620 heard that it was a year absence prior 166 00:08:32,330 --> 00:08:30,240 to that before their previous meeting 167 00:08:35,270 --> 00:08:32,340 and congressman dan burton was chair 168 00:08:38,510 --> 00:08:35,280 prior to that 49 oversight committee on 169 00:08:41,150 --> 00:08:38,520 government reform hearings so um and his 170 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:41,160 grandson was injured by vaccine in a 171 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:42,570 second year of life he received nine 172 00:08:47,270 --> 00:08:45,210 vaccines on one doctor's visit and 173 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:47,280 regressed into a severe case of autism 174 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:49,890 and such as the case actually Heidi with 175 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:54,690 a great many parents injury vaccine and 176 00:08:59,450 --> 00:08:56,640 you know it is kind of disturbing the 177 00:09:02,810 --> 00:08:59,460 book is actually about autism government 178 00:09:05,270 --> 00:09:02,820 malfeasance and injustice and I also 179 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,280 address you know my personal how I got 180 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:07,200 involved like you're asking me now my 181 00:09:11,150 --> 00:09:08,850 relationship with my father and my son 182 00:09:13,790 --> 00:09:11,160 and reuniting with my son after a 183 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:13,800 12-year absence due to his duties 184 00:09:19,430 --> 00:09:16,710 condition in my circumstances so trying 185 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:19,440 to admit yeah yeah it's incredible story 186 00:09:24,020 --> 00:09:20,880 the story behind the story is even more 187 00:09:26,180 --> 00:09:24,030 amazing in the story itself trying day I 188 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:26,190 heard them on coast to coast and I just 189 00:09:30,650 --> 00:09:27,690 did a show on coast-to-coast Monday 190 00:09:32,519 --> 00:09:30,660 trying day picked up the book just with 191 00:09:34,590 --> 00:09:32,529 one simple phone call and 192 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:34,600 Chris the editor turn me over to Nick 193 00:09:38,910 --> 00:09:37,420 Bryant he was the he's been in a 194 00:09:41,730 --> 00:09:38,920 business he's one of the best scientific 195 00:09:43,470 --> 00:09:41,740 researchers in the entire country and 196 00:09:45,540 --> 00:09:43,480 he's been at it like I saved for 23 197 00:09:47,220 --> 00:09:45,550 years he took on this task of helping me 198 00:09:48,660 --> 00:09:47,230 write this book and I'll be honest with 199 00:09:50,939 --> 00:09:48,670 you said this is my first book i've 200 00:09:51,929 --> 00:09:50,949 never in the book I don't I'll be the 201 00:09:55,019 --> 00:09:51,939 first one to tell you I'm not a 202 00:09:57,119 --> 00:09:55,029 scientist I am NOT a doctor and so it 203 00:09:59,309 --> 00:09:57,129 was asked posting me at one point why 204 00:10:01,160 --> 00:09:59,319 should people listen to you and you know 205 00:10:03,689 --> 00:10:01,170 that's a darn good question into this i 206 00:10:05,220 --> 00:10:03,699 have to say i have to say though you 207 00:10:06,689 --> 00:10:05,230 know that there's a lot of weight that's 208 00:10:08,819 --> 00:10:06,699 put on these little pieces of paper 209 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:08,829 called degrees and you know sometimes 210 00:10:13,439 --> 00:10:10,569 real life experiences all that it takes 211 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:13,449 so you know i'm totally not on that same 212 00:10:18,210 --> 00:10:16,089 boat so don't worry I'm with you all the 213 00:10:20,489 --> 00:10:18,220 way on this well that's okay now I don't 214 00:10:22,049 --> 00:10:20,499 have a big title after my name but what 215 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:22,059 I do have is I do have experience and I 216 00:10:25,799 --> 00:10:24,490 have a son that's autistic and as I got 217 00:10:28,049 --> 00:10:25,809 researching and here's the other thing 218 00:10:30,569 --> 00:10:28,059 my brick and mortar education may have 219 00:10:32,549 --> 00:10:30,579 stopped in 1977 but I never stopped 220 00:10:34,650 --> 00:10:32,559 educating myself and what I did was 221 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:34,660 spend the last 10,000 hours and three 222 00:10:38,369 --> 00:10:36,370 years in researching this book I've read 223 00:10:40,829 --> 00:10:38,379 study after study after study I've 224 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:40,839 disseminated the information and what 225 00:10:46,319 --> 00:10:43,420 congressman Burton said wrong you know 226 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:46,329 struck a chord my heart and he said you 227 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:48,370 know take all this information in this 228 00:10:52,650 --> 00:10:51,370 study disseminated or in this hearing 229 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:52,660 and disseminated to people because 230 00:10:57,780 --> 00:10:55,120 people really want to know and that's he 231 00:10:59,939 --> 00:10:57,790 said keep beating the drum because he 232 00:11:02,639 --> 00:10:59,949 bet he beated the drum he was beating 233 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:02,649 the drum for like for many many years 234 00:11:07,949 --> 00:11:05,410 and he said he had to step down to do to 235 00:11:10,079 --> 00:11:07,959 time limits his chair eyes is now chair 236 00:11:12,420 --> 00:11:10,089 of the Government Oversight Committee 237 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:12,430 and government reform and that's what 238 00:11:16,619 --> 00:11:14,649 I'm doing I'm on a mission here and you 239 00:11:18,059 --> 00:11:16,629 know I've gotten some awesome responses 240 00:11:20,790 --> 00:11:18,069 from people all over the country and 241 00:11:23,790 --> 00:11:20,800 even in different countries about the 242 00:11:25,049 --> 00:11:23,800 book and I put it in a short format I 243 00:11:26,910 --> 00:11:25,059 mean I could have made this book a 244 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:26,920 thousand pages long but I don't think I 245 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:28,240 even would have read it at that point 246 00:11:35,579 --> 00:11:33,730 Heidi yeah I loved I love to read things 247 00:11:37,619 --> 00:11:35,589 that I can understand and I want people 248 00:11:39,989 --> 00:11:37,629 to do the same thing I think everybody 249 00:11:41,249 --> 00:11:39,999 will identify with this book and when 250 00:11:43,379 --> 00:11:41,259 you read this book you're gonna you're 251 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:43,389 gonna say two things geez I didn't know 252 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:43,710 that 253 00:11:46,190 --> 00:11:44,880 and the other thing you're going to say 254 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:46,200 is you know that makes a lot of sense 255 00:11:49,580 --> 00:11:47,910 and the book does make a lot of sense 256 00:11:51,140 --> 00:11:49,590 and it's a hundred and sixty four page 257 00:11:53,870 --> 00:11:51,150 format you can read the whole book in 258 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:53,880 less than five hours yeah it's a nice 259 00:11:58,880 --> 00:11:56,130 little compact book it's like easy and 260 00:12:01,490 --> 00:11:58,890 very readable what is the full title 261 00:12:04,730 --> 00:12:01,500 that's on the book well actually it's 262 00:12:07,490 --> 00:12:04,740 it's entitled the autistic Holocaust and 263 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:07,500 the subtitle is the reason our children 264 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:10,320 keep getting sick now the crux of the 265 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:12,570 book is on autism but I don't just focus 266 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:16,320 on autism I focus on things that you 267 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:18,240 know like our government relationship 268 00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:20,250 with the CDC there's a love story going 269 00:12:26,690 --> 00:12:23,070 on there unfortunately it's not a very 270 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:26,700 good love story I also think it sounds 271 00:12:31,340 --> 00:12:29,550 like a horrific story my good well hey 272 00:12:32,930 --> 00:12:31,350 listen everybody everybody says you know 273 00:12:34,190 --> 00:12:32,940 yes the government's corrupt oh yeah we 274 00:12:35,690 --> 00:12:34,200 know that since the beginning of time 275 00:12:37,910 --> 00:12:35,700 all governments have been grown but I 276 00:12:41,210 --> 00:12:37,920 take specific instances in cases and 277 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:41,220 clearly site based on historical fact 278 00:12:45,290 --> 00:12:43,260 where they do this and how they do that 279 00:12:48,380 --> 00:12:45,300 in relationship to our health the CDC 280 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:48,390 and legislative intervention we even 281 00:12:51,410 --> 00:12:49,710 have laws that protect these 282 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:51,420 pharmaceutical companies from being sued 283 00:12:54,770 --> 00:12:52,740 when they injure us with something 284 00:12:57,370 --> 00:12:54,780 that's willing flee will it will in 285 00:12:59,660 --> 00:12:57,380 fully well I'm sorry willfully uh 286 00:13:02,300 --> 00:12:59,670 negligent and and they're producing a 287 00:13:04,490 --> 00:13:02,310 bad lot of things of this nature so 288 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:04,500 there's a vaccine court to help these 289 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:07,680 people that are vaccine injured victims 290 00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:10,800 and as it turns out it's a travesty and 291 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:13,200 it would one injustice after another to 292 00:13:17,210 --> 00:13:14,880 get money out of these people they've 293 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:17,220 got two thousand four hundred million 294 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:19,530 dollars in this fund that is supposed to 295 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:23,370 compensate families and of with children 296 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:25,890 that are vaccine injured and it takes 297 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:28,050 seven years on average to get a you know 298 00:13:32,330 --> 00:13:30,570 from start filing a claim to finish to 299 00:13:35,630 --> 00:13:32,340 receive any kind of award if in fact you 300 00:13:38,060 --> 00:13:35,640 receive on at all yeah that programs 301 00:13:40,490 --> 00:13:38,070 paid out as last I saw over three 302 00:13:43,550 --> 00:13:40,500 billion dollars to to let against to 303 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:43,560 petitioners so basically there's there's 304 00:13:49,850 --> 00:13:47,130 three government enterprises or agencies 305 00:13:51,770 --> 00:13:49,860 that operate this vaccine court and 306 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:51,780 you've got the Department of Justice you 307 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:54,510 got the human health and 308 00:14:00,320 --> 00:13:58,290 is and and you've got a the US federal 309 00:14:02,630 --> 00:14:00,330 court of claims that determines who gets 310 00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:02,640 paid and who doesn't get paid so and 311 00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:06,990 this is all presented as autumn autism 312 00:14:11,690 --> 00:14:09,600 omnibus proceedings with three special 313 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:11,700 masters presiding over thousands and 314 00:14:17,060 --> 00:14:14,250 thousands and thousands of cases so you 315 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:17,070 can see the hourglass pace which seems 316 00:14:21,170 --> 00:14:18,930 indeterminate as to when you actually 317 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:21,180 get to go through some cases are sealed 318 00:14:27,770 --> 00:14:24,810 before they brought to compensation and 319 00:14:29,810 --> 00:14:27,780 other cases you know are warded millions 320 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:29,820 of dollars in the case of Hannah pollen 321 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:31,230 which many people are familiar one of 322 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:32,730 the very first cases that were awarded 323 00:14:37,580 --> 00:14:36,090 her family received 1.5 million dollars 324 00:14:39,020 --> 00:14:37,590 right out of the gate and the five 325 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:39,030 hundred thousand dollars a year for the 326 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:42,270 rest of her life for you know compn 327 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:44,880 compensation you know she received nine 328 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:48,290 vaccines she got the you know she got 329 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,810 MMR vaccine which is very come to find 330 00:14:57,050 --> 00:14:53,760 out there's that's a nightmare varicella 331 00:14:59,060 --> 00:14:57,060 chickenpox DDP polio and haemophilus 332 00:15:00,740 --> 00:14:59,070 influenza vaccine in one shot of 18 333 00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:00,750 month of life and she regressed into 334 00:15:05,210 --> 00:15:02,760 severe autism the court the case was 335 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:05,220 sealed you can't even look at it how it 336 00:15:09,260 --> 00:15:06,480 turned out you know the government said 337 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:09,270 you went and there is a case where yeah 338 00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:11,730 there's other cases too and you know 339 00:15:15,890 --> 00:15:13,710 people say hey listen autism is out a 340 00:15:18,050 --> 00:15:15,900 result of vaccinations vaccines don't 341 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:18,060 cause autism and they don't accept when 342 00:15:22,820 --> 00:15:20,610 they do Heidi except when they do accept 343 00:15:24,350 --> 00:15:22,830 what they too I like the way did you put 344 00:15:27,170 --> 00:15:24,360 that you know I when I spoke to you 345 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:27,180 earlier today there was a study that I 346 00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:30,510 came across that I get the medscape 347 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:32,880 emails every once in a while and I find 348 00:15:38,810 --> 00:15:36,090 them fascinating and and one where they 349 00:15:42,020 --> 00:15:38,820 were linking the possibility that some 350 00:15:46,250 --> 00:15:42,030 of these unnecessary ultrasound tech 351 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:46,260 they're doing on on embryos are causing 352 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:49,170 some of these autism cases to come 353 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:51,210 forward I mean it's like they said 354 00:15:57,410 --> 00:15:54,030 because you know in embryonic you know 355 00:15:59,210 --> 00:15:57,420 child is is so sensitive their senses 356 00:16:02,450 --> 00:15:59,220 are sensitive and hear your you're 357 00:16:05,300 --> 00:16:02,460 shoving these waves at them and it can 358 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:05,310 be a distortion of a sort and they're 359 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:07,290 saying you know it should be very brief 360 00:16:09,230 --> 00:16:08,160 if you're 361 00:16:11,689 --> 00:16:09,240 just want to know the sex of the child 362 00:16:13,999 --> 00:16:11,699 is it worth risking the child's health 363 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:14,009 you know don't do it and to keep it at a 364 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:16,170 minimum I mean I don't know if you had a 365 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:17,730 chance to look into that but I mean 366 00:16:21,319 --> 00:16:19,769 which is mentioned earlier today but you 367 00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:21,329 know it's it was just kind of like wow 368 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:23,519 huh but do you think that there are 369 00:16:29,679 --> 00:16:26,610 other factors that are going you know 370 00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:29,689 into this this whole autism spectrum 371 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:31,980 well I think it's a combination of 372 00:16:37,610 --> 00:16:35,610 things and you know honestly I didn't 373 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:37,620 look into the ultrasound aspect of what 374 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:39,060 you're talking about but I actually have 375 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:40,649 a chapter in the book which addresses 376 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:43,410 genetically engineered or GMOs many 377 00:16:48,769 --> 00:16:46,410 people are familiar with that and and 378 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:48,779 they're used in our foods and our food 379 00:16:52,819 --> 00:16:50,519 supply and they have been it you 380 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:52,829 actually introduced they actually were 381 00:16:57,710 --> 00:16:54,899 considered as a generally recognized as 382 00:16:59,210 --> 00:16:57,720 safe prior to the 50s and no safety 383 00:17:03,710 --> 00:16:59,220 testing was ever done on these things 384 00:17:05,449 --> 00:17:03,720 michael taylor with monsanto sore mon 385 00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:05,459 satan as some people like to call them 386 00:17:10,970 --> 00:17:08,240 you know had that signed into what 387 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:10,980 that's pretty appropriate yeah well 388 00:17:15,470 --> 00:17:13,860 clinton sign that in and and you know no 389 00:17:18,049 --> 00:17:15,480 safety testing was ever done on these 390 00:17:19,610 --> 00:17:18,059 genetically modified things and there's 391 00:17:21,169 --> 00:17:19,620 no human research on this but there's 392 00:17:23,329 --> 00:17:21,179 animal research that proves these things 393 00:17:25,490 --> 00:17:23,339 are extremely harmful and ever since 394 00:17:28,279 --> 00:17:25,500 that you know things have gone up 395 00:17:29,870 --> 00:17:28,289 dramatically and there is studies that i 396 00:17:32,659 --> 00:17:29,880 mentioned in there that that actually 397 00:17:36,140 --> 00:17:32,669 correlate to the effect and relationship 398 00:17:39,289 --> 00:17:36,150 to autism in regards to diet and GMO 399 00:17:41,630 --> 00:17:39,299 ingestion so there are other things you 400 00:17:44,210 --> 00:17:41,640 know there's genetic causes i won't 401 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:44,220 dispute that but certainly we have at 402 00:17:47,930 --> 00:17:45,809 this point you mentioned an epidemic 403 00:17:50,990 --> 00:17:47,940 earlier well it's a pandemic it's all 404 00:17:53,299 --> 00:17:51,000 over them yes yes when we go from as 405 00:17:56,210 --> 00:17:53,309 congressman burton a carefully observed 406 00:17:58,669 --> 00:17:56,220 want one in 10,000 children and 70s to 407 00:18:01,159 --> 00:17:58,679 one in 68 children who are diagnosed is 408 00:18:03,649 --> 00:18:01,169 autistic it's an absolute disaster and 409 00:18:05,779 --> 00:18:03,659 actually the CDC won't recognize it as 410 00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:05,789 such as an epidemic they call it a 411 00:18:10,010 --> 00:18:07,919 public health concern a major public 412 00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:10,020 health concern and that's a little under 413 00:18:13,279 --> 00:18:11,760 statement of the facts oh it until it 414 00:18:15,950 --> 00:18:13,289 happens to their kid then it's a big 415 00:18:17,299 --> 00:18:15,960 deal right well and you know it's 416 00:18:19,130 --> 00:18:17,309 downplayed it when we look at 417 00:18:20,539 --> 00:18:19,140 vaccinations i'm not saying don't 418 00:18:20,850 --> 00:18:20,549 vaccinate your children that's not what 419 00:18:23,130 --> 00:18:20,860 I'm 420 00:18:25,890 --> 00:18:23,140 no but I think we're entitled to a fully 421 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:25,900 informed consent and and you look if you 422 00:18:29,850 --> 00:18:27,970 look at autism specifically autism 423 00:18:31,770 --> 00:18:29,860 spectrum just disorder prevalence is 424 00:18:34,410 --> 00:18:31,780 greater than all other development 425 00:18:36,660 --> 00:18:34,420 disorders combined like childhood cancer 426 00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:36,670 juvenile diabetes and pediatric AIDS as 427 00:18:42,030 --> 00:18:38,559 you're well aware of being in that field 428 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:42,040 yourself so you know we we have a big 429 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:43,570 problem there's not enough awareness 430 00:18:47,610 --> 00:18:45,760 brought to this issue and and things 431 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:47,620 have to be changed and it happens over a 432 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:49,330 period of time we're not going to change 433 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:52,090 whereas as john gilmore of the autism 434 00:18:55,919 --> 00:18:54,130 action and network said you know where 435 00:18:58,500 --> 00:18:55,929 to speaking with him he has an autistic 436 00:19:00,510 --> 00:18:58,510 child we're in a mild to of a marathon 437 00:19:01,710 --> 00:19:00,520 and so yes we got to keep beating the 438 00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:01,720 drum in it what we're doing is a 439 00:19:05,159 --> 00:19:03,190 grassroots effort just like we're doing 440 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:05,169 now and it may take years to bring 441 00:19:09,180 --> 00:19:07,090 alleged legislative change to light as 442 00:19:11,010 --> 00:19:09,190 as congressman Burton tried to do and 443 00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:11,020 actually something did change with the 444 00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:14,380 modernization act in 1997 they got a 445 00:19:19,890 --> 00:19:17,500 ruling that you know that thimerosal 446 00:19:23,159 --> 00:19:19,900 which was bid controversial at the time 447 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:23,169 and they still use that in and the 448 00:19:29,130 --> 00:19:27,010 influenza shot that should be removed 449 00:19:33,150 --> 00:19:29,140 from the vaccines the influenza shot was 450 00:19:36,990 --> 00:19:33,160 exempt from that declaration and in 1999 451 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:37,000 that went into determination and and was 452 00:19:40,370 --> 00:19:38,890 documented that the vaccine 453 00:19:44,430 --> 00:19:40,380 manufacturers had to adhere to that 454 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:44,440 except for the flu shot and so as a 455 00:19:49,289 --> 00:19:46,650 result thereof it was the public's 456 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:49,299 pressure and the controversy surrounding 457 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:51,520 that that the manufacturer said well 458 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:52,960 there's no problem with that Marisol 459 00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:54,610 we're just doing this as a precautionary 460 00:19:57,870 --> 00:19:56,080 measure because that would be an 461 00:19:59,940 --> 00:19:57,880 admission of guilt and that that could 462 00:20:01,140 --> 00:19:59,950 open up a can of worms so they said yeah 463 00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:01,150 we'll go along with it there's nothing 464 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:02,559 wrong with this stuff but we're taking 465 00:20:06,659 --> 00:20:05,410 it out anyway so why take it out if 466 00:20:09,090 --> 00:20:06,669 there's nothing wrong with it that's my 467 00:20:11,220 --> 00:20:09,100 whole point there and so there are other 468 00:20:13,740 --> 00:20:11,230 things now I mean if we look at and I 469 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:13,750 address the chapter by Teresa sure she's 470 00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:18,250 uh she's responsible for 23 issued us 471 00:20:22,770 --> 00:20:20,559 patents and the first person in the 472 00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:22,780 world to identify and clone a stem cell 473 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:25,059 from the human heart and she's would 474 00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:26,710 sound choice pharmaceutical Institute 475 00:20:31,379 --> 00:20:28,750 and she's big on what they call green 476 00:20:34,229 --> 00:20:31,389 vaccines which eliminate aborted human 477 00:20:36,659 --> 00:20:34,239 it'll cell lines from vaccines and she's 478 00:20:39,449 --> 00:20:36,669 actually her arguments very compelling 479 00:20:41,999 --> 00:20:39,459 Heidi she's drawn the scientific proof 480 00:20:43,769 --> 00:20:42,009 through her foundation that there were 481 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:43,779 birth year change points with the 482 00:20:47,729 --> 00:20:45,369 introduction of these aborted field 483 00:20:50,849 --> 00:20:47,739 selling vaccines that are responsible 484 00:20:53,249 --> 00:20:50,859 for our current autism epidemic and she 485 00:20:56,279 --> 00:20:53,259 makes a very compelling argument as such 486 00:20:59,489 --> 00:20:56,289 and so I think more scientists need to 487 00:21:00,899 --> 00:20:59,499 look at that and and you know is it is 488 00:21:04,049 --> 00:21:00,909 it that we're just giving our children 489 00:21:07,739 --> 00:21:04,059 too many vaccines well when I was of age 490 00:21:10,619 --> 00:21:07,749 back then back in the nineteen you know 491 00:21:12,509 --> 00:21:10,629 60s and that dates meal but I got for 492 00:21:15,509 --> 00:21:12,519 vaccines and now children before they 493 00:21:17,159 --> 00:21:15,519 getting into school are getting what 49 494 00:21:20,099 --> 00:21:17,169 and by the time they're 18 are getting 495 00:21:21,959 --> 00:21:20,109 69 and and so you know I think we're 496 00:21:24,089 --> 00:21:21,969 inundating our children would with more 497 00:21:26,249 --> 00:21:24,099 vaccines according to the Advisory 498 00:21:29,609 --> 00:21:26,259 Committee on Immunization and practices 499 00:21:32,430 --> 00:21:29,619 they determined the schedule and as dr. 500 00:21:34,649 --> 00:21:32,440 Colleen Boyle stated from the CDC you 501 00:21:36,389 --> 00:21:34,659 know and as posed by carolyn Maloney 502 00:21:39,180 --> 00:21:36,399 democrat from new york my own state 503 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:39,190 actually she said you know why is there 504 00:21:42,539 --> 00:21:40,690 so many kids getting so many shots why 505 00:21:44,069 --> 00:21:42,549 do why don't we space them out and Boyle 506 00:21:46,649 --> 00:21:44,079 said well the reason they do this 507 00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:46,659 actually it is to make sure that all the 508 00:21:49,379 --> 00:21:48,159 children get their shots because some 509 00:21:52,649 --> 00:21:49,389 parents don't bring their kids to the 510 00:21:55,019 --> 00:21:52,659 doctor on time so it's a mad it's kind 511 00:21:56,459 --> 00:21:55,029 of like mandatory you know and and and 512 00:21:59,399 --> 00:21:56,469 right now there's legislation in 513 00:22:01,109 --> 00:21:59,409 California or no exemptions every child 514 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:01,119 and we got that same here in New York 515 00:22:05,069 --> 00:22:03,369 coming up in 2016 that'll be effective 516 00:22:06,749 --> 00:22:05,079 you want to get an education for your 517 00:22:08,639 --> 00:22:06,759 kid in a public school you better have 518 00:22:11,789 --> 00:22:08,649 me shot so they can tender school and 519 00:22:14,249 --> 00:22:11,799 pretty soon what I am looking at and I'm 520 00:22:17,549 --> 00:22:14,259 thinking and I believe as many other 521 00:22:19,019 --> 00:22:17,559 people do is that you may be required to 522 00:22:20,969 --> 00:22:19,029 get a vaccination before go to work 523 00:22:22,499 --> 00:22:20,979 before you do anything where you come in 524 00:22:24,389 --> 00:22:22,509 contact with people and that's really 525 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:24,399 the true agenda here I believe is to 526 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:27,129 vaccinate every man woman child on the 527 00:22:30,089 --> 00:22:28,809 planet that's right well Heidi's 528 00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,099 probably got some we're driving around 529 00:22:36,329 --> 00:22:32,559 under a tunnel or something like that so 530 00:22:39,950 --> 00:22:36,339 and and my whole position on this is 531 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:39,960 that you know we have been 532 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:44,130 reboot for freedom of choice and and we 533 00:22:48,260 --> 00:22:46,290 really we need to step up and do 534 00:22:50,930 --> 00:22:48,270 something we need to awaken ourselves to 535 00:22:53,870 --> 00:22:50,940 the situation and we're also in a 536 00:22:56,930 --> 00:22:53,880 position at this time Heidi if you can 537 00:22:59,570 --> 00:22:56,940 hear me where there's been more erosion 538 00:23:01,340 --> 00:22:59,580 of our rights and it doesn't just start 539 00:23:03,910 --> 00:23:01,350 with the vaccinations it starts with our 540 00:23:06,140 --> 00:23:03,920 constitutional amendments there's been 541 00:23:08,690 --> 00:23:06,150 interpretation private interpretation of 542 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:08,700 that and when it comes down to our 543 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:10,650 children's health a lot of people don't 544 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,650 spend the time that's required and they 545 00:23:20,180 --> 00:23:15,360 simply accept the fact that these 546 00:23:21,740 --> 00:23:20,190 vaccines are safe and and again we need 547 00:23:23,930 --> 00:23:21,750 to look at the harm these things to 548 00:23:28,570 --> 00:23:23,940 delivery systems can change we're using 549 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:28,580 a technology that's well over 150 years 550 00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,710 it's kind of archaic I believe that 551 00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:33,120 science is going to look back on this 552 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:34,710 years from now and say why were we doing 553 00:23:39,710 --> 00:23:38,310 it in this approach so you know and 554 00:23:42,170 --> 00:23:39,720 there are some their schools of thought 555 00:23:44,030 --> 00:23:42,180 that you know these vaccine people that 556 00:23:45,890 --> 00:23:44,040 are against vaccines they're absolutely 557 00:23:50,540 --> 00:23:45,900 crazy they don't support themselves with 558 00:23:53,180 --> 00:23:50,550 science and you know there is a lot of 559 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:53,190 science that supports that the vaccines 560 00:23:59,870 --> 00:23:56,730 are safe but what I will say to that is 561 00:24:03,350 --> 00:23:59,880 that's not that's simply not the case in 562 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:03,360 fact we just need to look at a statement 563 00:24:12,290 --> 00:24:08,400 that doctor dr. William Thompson it was 564 00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:12,300 a senior scientist for the CDC he came 565 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:14,760 out not all that long ago and he said 566 00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:17,790 the original data that he mitad that the 567 00:24:22,550 --> 00:24:20,280 CDC altered the data that showed the MMR 568 00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:22,560 vaccine was associate without autism the 569 00:24:27,290 --> 00:24:24,150 original data actually showed that the 570 00:24:29,180 --> 00:24:27,300 MMR vaccine when given before 36 months 571 00:24:30,940 --> 00:24:29,190 of age was associated with a two hundred 572 00:24:33,260 --> 00:24:30,950 and forty percent increase in 573 00:24:35,780 --> 00:24:33,270 african-american children and there was 574 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:35,790 a sixty-nine percent increase in autism 575 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:38,610 in any male child who receive a vaccine 576 00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:43,110 before 36 months of age so you know 577 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:45,900 there's just one case and within the 578 00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:48,290 book I mentioned a couple examples where 579 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:50,360 you know the government has 580 00:24:57,790 --> 00:24:53,450 involved and and well let's look at the 581 00:25:01,030 --> 00:24:57,800 CDC and actually in that report of it 582 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:01,040 was dr. Thompson who was a co-author of 583 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:05,810 a crucial 2014 CDC research article that 584 00:25:10,090 --> 00:25:07,730 it actually exonerated a link between 585 00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:10,100 the MMR vaccine and autism and that was 586 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:11,630 used in a case of defense for the 587 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:14,270 vaccine actually he was under distress 588 00:25:19,930 --> 00:25:18,110 he contacted Brian hooker PhD who is 589 00:25:22,810 --> 00:25:19,940 also the father of an autistic child 590 00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:22,820 that was caused by vaccine injury and 591 00:25:27,550 --> 00:25:24,470 hooker went out to publish the missing 592 00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:27,560 data from 2004 and that was actually 593 00:25:32,590 --> 00:25:29,990 published in the transit translational 594 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:32,600 neurodegeneration magazine or journal 595 00:25:38,530 --> 00:25:35,450 log sorry and there's a PM ID number for 596 00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:38,540 that showing that and and that was 597 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:41,840 retracted they felt that the the powers 598 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:43,730 that be that the study was removed 599 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:45,530 because of serious concerns about the 600 00:25:53,140 --> 00:25:49,250 validity of the conclusions and let's 601 00:25:56,410 --> 00:25:53,150 look at a dr. Colleen boil again and at 602 00:25:59,140 --> 00:25:56,420 the time director of the CDC a frank de 603 00:26:01,990 --> 00:25:59,150 Stefano and there's an interesting story 604 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:02,000 between them and 2000 but they 605 00:26:08,430 --> 00:26:05,930 co-authored a study that said that there 606 00:26:12,460 --> 00:26:08,440 was really not a big incidents between 607 00:26:17,020 --> 00:26:12,470 having this MMR vaccine and autism it 608 00:26:19,570 --> 00:26:17,030 was negligible and and so um if we go 609 00:26:21,070 --> 00:26:19,580 back to 2000 historically they had to 610 00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:21,080 send some wood hearing and it was 611 00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:22,790 actually Colleen boil at the time of his 612 00:26:30,580 --> 00:26:27,470 assistant director she suggested to the 613 00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:30,590 director Frank de Stefano that the data 614 00:26:37,390 --> 00:26:33,110 being manipulated to include one year 615 00:26:39,370 --> 00:26:37,400 olds to water down the the effect so and 616 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:39,380 I do list specific examples in the book 617 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:43,490 of that and of course this book does 618 00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:46,970 contain scientific studies pubmed 619 00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:48,950 studies which anybody can look at and go 620 00:26:55,499 --> 00:26:51,070 to but and again this 621 00:26:57,509 --> 00:26:55,509 is this is something what the government 622 00:27:00,299 --> 00:26:57,519 has done to and we I think we just have 623 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:00,309 to look at an overall thing I talked 624 00:27:04,139 --> 00:27:02,289 about the flu shot and in the book you 625 00:27:07,139 --> 00:27:04,149 know that that's just the microcosm I 626 00:27:10,259 --> 00:27:07,149 think of the overall situation and 627 00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:10,269 that's another you know it was during 628 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:14,169 the 2009-2010 swine flu camp a campaign 629 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:18,370 that dr. Goldman reported 4250 percent 630 00:27:23,129 --> 00:27:21,250 increase in miscarriages and still still 631 00:27:25,169 --> 00:27:23,139 ones well because we're having some 632 00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:25,179 issues I am going to have to jump to 633 00:27:28,139 --> 00:27:26,830 break here at we're listening to heidi 634 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:28,149 hollis of the outlander and we'll be 635 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:30,610 right back welcome back everybody you're 636 00:27:36,509 --> 00:27:32,169 listening to me heidi hollis the 637 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:36,519 Outlander holy cannoli I've had some fun 638 00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:39,129 stuff going on i tell you i am home safe 639 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:44,769 and sound and we are talking about what 640 00:27:51,450 --> 00:27:48,610 is called the autistic holocaust I'm 641 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:51,460 have my awesome guest here we have John 642 00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:54,490 mica and my goodness i'm sorry i missed 643 00:28:01,100 --> 00:27:56,950 so much but i'm sure i will be able to 644 00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:01,110 hear the replay but you know I wanted to 645 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:05,230 give people the case say that you you 646 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:07,690 just had this wonderful perfect bundle 647 00:28:12,690 --> 00:28:10,529 of joy and you start to notice problems 648 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:12,700 something's not quite right with your 649 00:28:16,740 --> 00:28:15,129 child parents know their kids and you 650 00:28:18,749 --> 00:28:16,750 know maybe an occupational therapist you 651 00:28:20,909 --> 00:28:18,759 know that the parents are the first ones 652 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:20,919 that we speak to you to say well what 653 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:23,110 are you noticing what do you see to be 654 00:28:28,019 --> 00:28:24,970 the problem and we kind of go from there 655 00:28:31,639 --> 00:28:28,029 as a new parent what do you recommend 656 00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:31,649 for them to do if they do start to see 657 00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:35,529 issues occurring with their child well I 658 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:38,230 would say first of all it's important to 659 00:28:43,139 --> 00:28:40,570 know what what the gold standard is for 660 00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:43,149 seeing what what the what in the 661 00:28:47,369 --> 00:28:44,740 relation guard and relationship to 662 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:47,379 autism or autism spectrum disorders are 663 00:28:51,769 --> 00:28:49,690 and that's determined by the diagnostic 664 00:28:54,379 --> 00:28:51,779 Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 665 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:54,389 currently it's the DSM the fifth edition 666 00:28:58,409 --> 00:28:57,610 and in the third edition was the first 667 00:28:59,999 --> 00:28:58,419 time in 668 00:29:03,239 --> 00:29:00,009 I think it was nineteen eighty that even 669 00:29:06,479 --> 00:29:03,249 suggested autism prior to that it was so 670 00:29:09,629 --> 00:29:06,489 rare it wasn't even on a definition of 671 00:29:11,099 --> 00:29:09,639 any kind of thing and and so now what 672 00:29:12,869 --> 00:29:11,109 actually what i did in the book is nice 673 00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:12,879 because if somebody's having a child or 674 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:14,440 if they already have a child they can 675 00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,210 look at this and see for themselves the 676 00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,039 communicative the socialization and the 677 00:29:26,129 --> 00:29:23,440 behavioral traits of somebody that gets 678 00:29:29,340 --> 00:29:26,139 definition or falls on the scale of a an 679 00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:29,350 autistic spectrum disorder diagnosis and 680 00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:32,799 so what what kids what parents can do 681 00:29:38,849 --> 00:29:36,220 for their children is to obviously even 682 00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:38,859 take notes write down all their doctor's 683 00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:41,230 visits right down I have a notebook of 684 00:29:45,930 --> 00:29:43,059 what your child is doing and observe 685 00:29:48,869 --> 00:29:45,940 what he's doing and you can see is he 686 00:29:52,379 --> 00:29:48,879 got repetitious repetition of speech 687 00:29:54,299 --> 00:29:52,389 pretty normal reversal you know how is 688 00:29:56,190 --> 00:29:54,309 his language how is his development does 689 00:29:57,599 --> 00:29:56,200 he speak does he cry my own son I don't 690 00:29:59,460 --> 00:29:57,609 even think he cried for the first year 691 00:30:02,639 --> 00:29:59,470 of his life and that was kind of a clue 692 00:30:04,379 --> 00:30:02,649 right there and so you know some 693 00:30:06,690 --> 00:30:04,389 children are diagnosed mainly before 694 00:30:08,909 --> 00:30:06,700 they're eight years of age and so you 695 00:30:12,690 --> 00:30:08,919 want to watch closely during those free 696 00:30:14,509 --> 00:30:12,700 first 30 months of life and then you can 697 00:30:16,590 --> 00:30:14,519 get intervention and you can suggest 698 00:30:18,749 --> 00:30:16,600 intervention because you are the best 699 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:18,759 parents are the best doctors for their 700 00:30:23,159 --> 00:30:21,609 children we are our own best doctors the 701 00:30:25,649 --> 00:30:23,169 doctors are only going to spend about 15 702 00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:25,659 minutes with our children and I don't 703 00:30:29,549 --> 00:30:26,799 see how they can come up with a 704 00:30:31,499 --> 00:30:29,559 determinant factor and when I go see the 705 00:30:33,090 --> 00:30:31,509 doctor you know I don't get to talk to 706 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:33,100 him very long and he usually writes a 707 00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:35,289 script that's the way we do it and in 708 00:30:41,249 --> 00:30:38,799 the United States hey you know I have to 709 00:30:44,180 --> 00:30:41,259 tell you it's like you know this always 710 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:44,190 kills me when you could wait an hour 711 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:46,330 hour-and-a-half sometimes for a doctor 712 00:30:49,289 --> 00:30:47,769 to get to you they're running late but 713 00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:49,299 if you're more than 15 minutes late 714 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:51,070 you're considered to have skipped your 715 00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:53,529 appointment and you may owe them fifty 716 00:30:57,779 --> 00:30:54,820 bucks or something for missing your 717 00:31:00,299 --> 00:30:57,789 appointment and I knew of a guy who 718 00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:00,309 actually sent a bill to a doctor because 719 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:02,350 he had him wait for like an hour and a 720 00:31:06,479 --> 00:31:04,210 half two hours for his time off from 721 00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:06,489 work sitting there waiting for him but 722 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:08,470 you know when it comes to these doctors 723 00:31:12,210 --> 00:31:10,090 that like to pop in and out yeah I know 724 00:31:13,529 --> 00:31:12,220 they're busy well you have a busy life 725 00:31:16,110 --> 00:31:13,539 too and they're getting paid an awful 726 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:16,120 lot to double booked up the way that 727 00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:18,090 they do that they're so far behind I 728 00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:21,070 love to pull out my printed sheet of 729 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:24,159 questions and say well you know this is 730 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:26,289 what I've got for you you know and and 731 00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:29,049 not let them rush out the door and even 732 00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:30,940 ask them is it okay if I record this 733 00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:32,380 conversation because I don't want to 734 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:34,390 miss anything and you know and if their 735 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:37,030 doctor that goes oh no no no then that's 736 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:38,770 not a good doctor I'm sorry if they 737 00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:40,450 should be there for your best interest 738 00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:43,030 so I always recommend to my patients and 739 00:31:47,549 --> 00:31:45,520 the parents of my patients to you know 740 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:47,559 do all those things just so just it's 741 00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:50,530 for their own good you know I agree you 742 00:31:54,029 --> 00:31:52,000 know and that's recording that's not a 743 00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:54,039 bad idea and I can tell you this is not 744 00:31:58,350 --> 00:31:55,809 related to autism but doctors in 745 00:32:01,320 --> 00:31:58,360 specific some of them don't have the 746 00:32:02,909 --> 00:32:01,330 time really because of the schedule they 747 00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:02,919 having or you know it's a matter of the 748 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:04,870 training some are well versed on this 749 00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:06,970 and they're they're experts in the field 750 00:32:12,899 --> 00:32:10,390 as well they should be however you know 751 00:32:14,669 --> 00:32:12,909 if we go to a list you know and say hey 752 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:14,679 listen this is my son's doing this this 753 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:16,450 this this this and I'm concerned I think 754 00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:18,220 we should look at that further and he 755 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:21,659 can go in for us you know additional 756 00:32:27,090 --> 00:32:25,210 whatever a attention to recommend 757 00:32:29,310 --> 00:32:27,100 intervention there's ABA therapy there's 758 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:29,320 all kinds as you well know things that 759 00:32:38,669 --> 00:32:34,630 children can do to make their situation 760 00:32:41,730 --> 00:32:38,679 a little better and hopefully attenuate 761 00:32:43,649 --> 00:32:41,740 the their circumstances all right so and 762 00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:43,659 you know I try to encourage parents to 763 00:32:46,770 --> 00:32:44,799 it's like don't look at their 764 00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:46,780 disabilities look at their abilities 765 00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:49,120 focus in on those things don't look at 766 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:51,400 what they should be able to do look what 767 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:53,710 they can do and and you know build upon 768 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:55,510 that they have an interest in music work 769 00:32:59,279 --> 00:32:57,730 on the music you know it's like you 770 00:33:02,520 --> 00:32:59,289 don't just go there with that you know 771 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:02,530 improvise and you know it's it's sad but 772 00:33:06,510 --> 00:33:04,210 they really aren't a lot of resources 773 00:33:10,049 --> 00:33:06,520 for you know children that have these 774 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:10,059 different abilities and it's it's awful 775 00:33:15,270 --> 00:33:12,490 I I'm here in Chicago and you know 776 00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:15,280 working at a pediatric clinic and 777 00:33:20,669 --> 00:33:18,070 whatnot and it's sad to see the 778 00:33:22,889 --> 00:33:20,679 desperation in the parents eyes like oh 779 00:33:24,690 --> 00:33:22,899 my gosh you're accepting kids like yeah 780 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:24,700 like there's a year waiting list you 781 00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:26,110 know to even get 782 00:33:30,270 --> 00:33:28,360 stood at the main hospital here in 783 00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:30,280 Chicago one of the big ones for children 784 00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:32,980 there's two therapists that evaluate to 785 00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:35,350 let them know at what level you know 786 00:33:40,110 --> 00:33:37,360 that what's level in the spectrum that 787 00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:40,120 their kids are at with autism like wow 788 00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:43,240 you know it's it's really harsh and then 789 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:45,220 you get them into the program a nice 790 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:47,110 program you know where the kids are 791 00:33:51,570 --> 00:33:49,510 making progress and going forward and up 792 00:33:53,970 --> 00:33:51,580 there 21 now they're there they're out 793 00:33:56,820 --> 00:33:53,980 of the program and boom what are these 794 00:33:58,740 --> 00:33:56,830 kids do I mean they're they're adults 795 00:34:00,900 --> 00:33:58,750 now so what they don't have any issues 796 00:34:03,150 --> 00:34:00,910 they get put in these these daycare 797 00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:03,160 centers you know adult day care and they 798 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:04,870 sit there and become zombies and they go 799 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:06,610 right back into their little world and 800 00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:09,850 that's awful that's really awful I don't 801 00:34:13,889 --> 00:34:12,280 think any child I don't think anybody 802 00:34:16,379 --> 00:34:13,899 likes to have a label put on them as 803 00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:16,389 being disabled exactly that's derogatory 804 00:34:22,530 --> 00:34:19,750 and it's it's it's a bad bad thing and 805 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:22,540 you know it's about acceptance and to we 806 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:24,850 can put point fingers all we want it who 807 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:27,010 did this to my child and who's 808 00:34:31,950 --> 00:34:29,770 responsible there are organizations that 809 00:34:34,590 --> 00:34:31,960 you know focus solely on you know 810 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:34,600 pointing a finger and and that's not 811 00:34:39,180 --> 00:34:36,490 really the whole answer the whole answer 812 00:34:41,609 --> 00:34:39,190 is acceptance and yes we are all created 813 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:41,619 with individual gifts and talents even 814 00:34:44,849 --> 00:34:42,970 in light of the fact that we're born 815 00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:44,859 with a disorder or disability I have a 816 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:47,980 severe disorder myself and I didn't know 817 00:34:53,399 --> 00:34:51,010 that if I was by poor and had a 818 00:34:55,169 --> 00:34:53,409 debilitating situation of that that 819 00:34:58,380 --> 00:34:55,179 would increase the risk of my child 820 00:34:59,790 --> 00:34:58,390 becoming autistic I am so and there's a 821 00:35:01,260 --> 00:34:59,800 lot of things I didn't know as I was 822 00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:01,270 going along with the book but the main 823 00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:02,950 thing is with my son he understands he 824 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:06,070 has a disorder he does but but he also 825 00:35:09,290 --> 00:35:07,570 understands that doesn't define his 826 00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:09,300 character and he works within those 827 00:35:13,530 --> 00:35:12,220 limitations on a daily basis and i will 828 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:13,540 tell you one thing if it weren't for him 829 00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:14,530 this book never would have gotten 830 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:16,270 finished in the time it did because i 831 00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:17,530 didn't even know how to turn the 832 00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:19,750 computer on when i started writing this 833 00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,900 book and that's no joke and you know my 834 00:35:25,859 --> 00:35:24,400 genre is such that i don't have the 835 00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:25,869 computer knowledge and I was scared of 836 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:28,900 computers to be honest with you so I did 837 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:29,680 it I 838 00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:32,800 yes you know when the the fire is lit it 839 00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:35,440 doesn't take much does it's like oh and 840 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:36,880 it's like it's a matter that's a matter 841 00:35:41,819 --> 00:35:39,490 of knowledge and education and so I my 842 00:35:44,010 --> 00:35:41,829 son helped me write this book and he got 843 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:44,020 a chance to read everything and you know 844 00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:45,250 and again that the whole book was 845 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:46,569 published when I finished with it but it 846 00:35:49,980 --> 00:35:48,490 was chopped up pretty good but just just 847 00:35:52,349 --> 00:35:49,990 the things we need to know are in there 848 00:35:54,839 --> 00:35:52,359 and just enough so that a parents have a 849 00:35:56,490 --> 00:35:54,849 way to go or who to contact or you know 850 00:35:58,799 --> 00:35:56,500 sources that they can they can go to 851 00:36:01,380 --> 00:35:58,809 that you know that actually do help for 852 00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:01,390 for families and families with children 853 00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:03,520 who love their autistic you know who 854 00:36:07,710 --> 00:36:06,160 cool of their autistic children so you 855 00:36:09,150 --> 00:36:07,720 know it's important to remember these 856 00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:09,160 children are gifted they're not 857 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:10,900 handicapped right you're gifted and 858 00:36:15,809 --> 00:36:14,050 that's it truly oh so so it's a holistic 859 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:15,819 approach it's a wholesome holistic 860 00:36:20,490 --> 00:36:17,530 approach and I will tell you the best 861 00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:20,500 six doctors we can have our diet proper 862 00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:24,640 diet fresh water exercise sunshine you 863 00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:28,150 know air and I can't you remember the 864 00:36:33,210 --> 00:36:30,550 six month daya trust exercise fresh 865 00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:33,220 water air and sunshine something in that 866 00:36:38,010 --> 00:36:35,680 order but you know and we have an immune 867 00:36:41,339 --> 00:36:38,020 system that we were given right from 868 00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,349 birth that is absolutely incredible it's 869 00:36:46,109 --> 00:36:43,839 amazing the the body is an amazing thing 870 00:36:48,089 --> 00:36:46,119 Heidi and if we take care of our bodies 871 00:36:50,430 --> 00:36:48,099 and we eat what we're supposed to when 872 00:36:53,609 --> 00:36:50,440 we do what we're supposed to do it do to 873 00:36:56,819 --> 00:36:53,619 it you know we can ensure us of having a 874 00:36:59,609 --> 00:36:56,829 longer healthier lifestyle Oh indeed I 875 00:37:01,650 --> 00:36:59,619 believe it now early in the interview 876 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:01,660 that we were having here you said that 877 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:03,609 you helped your father write a book on 878 00:37:07,530 --> 00:37:05,650 autism what was going on with that and 879 00:37:11,789 --> 00:37:07,540 why was he inspired to write a book on 880 00:37:18,510 --> 00:37:11,799 that well he lives in he lives in Ohio 881 00:37:20,849 --> 00:37:18,520 and he actually wrote a book because he 882 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:20,859 worked with autistic children he dropped 883 00:37:23,849 --> 00:37:22,510 he drove a bus he's retired bus driver 884 00:37:26,819 --> 00:37:23,859 he's had he worked for General Electric 885 00:37:30,260 --> 00:37:26,829 e he actually credits you know he has a 886 00:37:32,970 --> 00:37:30,270 couple patents for General Electric that 887 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:32,980 he said saved them millions of dollars 888 00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:36,910 and he also you know he's electronics 889 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:38,200 expert and 890 00:37:43,290 --> 00:37:41,410 he said wade into broadcasting and i did 891 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:43,300 a couple shows when i didn't know what 892 00:37:46,770 --> 00:37:45,280 that guy was doing or talking about just 893 00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:46,780 cuz i believed in the message of autism 894 00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:48,609 and you know that was early in my 895 00:37:56,010 --> 00:37:53,920 educational cycle and since that time i 896 00:37:58,109 --> 00:37:56,020 was helping him and he said write me 897 00:38:00,420 --> 00:37:58,119 some chapters he said write me some more 898 00:38:02,099 --> 00:38:00,430 some more some more and then it turned 899 00:38:04,109 --> 00:38:02,109 into me saying well wait a minute I've 900 00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:04,119 got something to say this is my story 901 00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:06,190 this is my son and this is what I found 902 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:10,480 out and and so I like I said I spent a 903 00:38:14,190 --> 00:38:12,700 lot of time and a good thing about this 904 00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:14,200 book for anybody is they're not gonna 905 00:38:19,170 --> 00:38:16,060 find this just by going through the 906 00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:19,180 internet it's there all the studies all 907 00:38:22,349 --> 00:38:20,740 the scientific studies are there the 908 00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,359 doctors are there I don't just take one 909 00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:24,640 side I look at what the other side is 910 00:38:28,349 --> 00:38:26,230 saying too so we have to give 911 00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:28,359 credibility to the other other side of 912 00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:30,040 the issue we can't just say there nuts 913 00:38:32,970 --> 00:38:30,880 they don't know what they're talking 914 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:32,980 about and this is what we got to say 915 00:38:36,210 --> 00:38:35,050 this is good you're bad and in the book 916 00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:36,220 that's what my editor said he's just 917 00:38:39,569 --> 00:38:38,230 state the facts so that people choose 918 00:38:41,370 --> 00:38:39,579 you know decide for themselves if 919 00:38:42,690 --> 00:38:41,380 there's any value to it and he said John 920 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:42,700 you got a great product on your hands 921 00:38:46,290 --> 00:38:44,770 and that's what if this is it's a very 922 00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:46,300 good product you know and if anybody 923 00:38:49,859 --> 00:38:47,950 does read this is a book anybody should 924 00:38:51,569 --> 00:38:49,869 read not just people or families that 925 00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:51,579 have autism there's over tooth out 926 00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:53,260 there's over two million families that 927 00:38:58,410 --> 00:38:55,089 are affected by this disorder in the 928 00:39:00,420 --> 00:38:58,420 united states alone my goodness and you 929 00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:00,430 know when you put something like this 930 00:39:06,030 --> 00:39:02,260 together I mean it's a labor of love of 931 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:06,040 course and you're hopeful for a certain 932 00:39:09,809 --> 00:39:08,290 message especially to get across what 933 00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:09,819 what is the main thing that you hope 934 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:12,160 people come away with and what all that 935 00:39:17,819 --> 00:39:14,770 you've researched i would say informed 936 00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:17,829 consent and awareness of what's been 937 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:19,839 going on for the last several years and 938 00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:22,089 how we got to where we are in 939 00:39:27,210 --> 00:39:24,550 relationships to our children being 940 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:27,220 inoculated and harms and risks that they 941 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:30,250 can do you know and let's look at what 942 00:39:34,650 --> 00:39:31,930 these things can do and we should 943 00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:34,660 question what we've been spoon-fed to 944 00:39:39,450 --> 00:39:37,720 accept is that's good for you and if you 945 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:39,460 don't think so then you're absolutely 946 00:39:43,230 --> 00:39:41,050 crazy because it's not supported by 947 00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:43,240 scientific fact when there are hundreds 948 00:39:48,059 --> 00:39:44,800 and hundreds and hundreds of anecdotal 949 00:39:50,579 --> 00:39:48,069 cases that say to the contrary and as 950 00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:50,589 you well know that scientific research 951 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:51,400 and evidence is bay 952 00:39:55,650 --> 00:39:53,770 on anecdotal cases and so I think we're 953 00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:55,660 discrediting those I think they're there 954 00:40:01,170 --> 00:39:58,000 are case studies if I mentioned one with 955 00:40:03,269 --> 00:40:01,180 the MMR vaccine by senior scientist dr. 956 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:03,279 Thompson who who came out and said 957 00:40:08,220 --> 00:40:05,730 admitted publicly that the MMR study 958 00:40:12,299 --> 00:40:08,230 that showed there was no correlation to 959 00:40:13,950 --> 00:40:12,309 autism was was falsified and so if that 960 00:40:15,299 --> 00:40:13,960 brings one question in a study I think 961 00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:15,309 it brings many questions in this study 962 00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:18,940 moreover parents you know that you know 963 00:40:22,650 --> 00:40:20,950 they just need to take a little time you 964 00:40:24,329 --> 00:40:22,660 know and that's what you know spent four 965 00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:24,339 or five hours take a little time 966 00:40:31,470 --> 00:40:28,720 investment and see is this you know what 967 00:40:35,549 --> 00:40:31,480 is my kid doing how can I help so this 968 00:40:38,819 --> 00:40:35,559 isn't an accusatory I can't even speak 969 00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:38,829 this book doesn't necessarily accuse as 970 00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:40,630 much as it does bring to awareness 971 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:42,700 enlightenment and offers help and 972 00:40:46,859 --> 00:40:43,930 suggestions because you know there is 973 00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:46,869 hope there is a one one person sent me 974 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:49,599 an e-mail say you know that's fine but 975 00:40:53,609 --> 00:40:51,369 there's nothing we can do and that's 976 00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:53,619 where I disagree completely and it's a 977 00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:54,760 matter of doing what we're doing right 978 00:40:59,240 --> 00:40:57,760 now and it's a matter of talking it's a 979 00:41:01,529 --> 00:40:59,250 matter of being together we are 980 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:01,539 disbanded well you know we're not we 981 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:04,510 don't have really a united effort we've 982 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:06,130 got several individual efforts that have 983 00:41:10,890 --> 00:41:08,890 hundreds and thousands of people and you 984 00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:10,900 know we're discredited because we're not 985 00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:13,390 really united is one thing so I don't 986 00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:15,520 know where to go with that but but there 987 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:17,950 is things that can be done and it starts 988 00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:19,630 from the bottom and it works its way up 989 00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:23,049 as a grassroot effort oh you know it's 990 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:26,380 it's truly commendable what you're doing 991 00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:28,930 and what you're aiming for and you know 992 00:41:35,250 --> 00:41:31,990 I know you've got the UM of many parents 993 00:41:38,279 --> 00:41:35,260 behind you going oh yes say it because 994 00:41:41,579 --> 00:41:38,289 it needs to be sad i I just I can't 995 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:41,589 imagine you know the the anger that 996 00:41:46,049 --> 00:41:45,130 comes with getting such a diagnosis and 997 00:41:49,859 --> 00:41:46,059 something that could be totally 998 00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:49,869 avoidable for your precious child and 999 00:41:54,779 --> 00:41:52,180 and and just looking at those that you 1000 00:41:57,569 --> 00:41:54,789 trusted with your child and their health 1001 00:42:01,260 --> 00:41:57,579 I mean and then that be offered the 1002 00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:01,270 proper manners of dealing with you know 1003 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:02,950 what's what's happening with your kid I 1004 00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:05,410 mean it's it's just gut-wrenching 1005 00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:07,180 to know that this is happening now I 1006 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:08,830 don't know if I missed what you're 1007 00:42:13,710 --> 00:42:11,730 saying in regards to this topic but 1008 00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:13,720 something that you sent over to me 1009 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:16,150 here's mention that there's some 1010 00:42:24,420 --> 00:42:19,960 correlation between mercury and autism 1011 00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:24,430 what is that okay well mercury first of 1012 00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:27,760 all what they use in the vaccines what 1013 00:42:32,910 --> 00:42:29,590 they used extensively in the vaccines is 1014 00:42:35,370 --> 00:42:32,920 a preservative actually for especially 1015 00:42:38,610 --> 00:42:35,380 these trivalent vaccines let's say you 1016 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:38,620 know that have three like measles mumps 1017 00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:41,890 rubella diphtheria tetanus and polio 1018 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:44,860 polio or I'm sorry pertussis acellular 1019 00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:48,880 pertussis these are trivalent vaccines 1020 00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:53,440 and they actually require thimerosal to 1021 00:43:02,610 --> 00:42:57,660 are they used to require thimerosal to 1022 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,620 act as a preservative and that maybe I'm 1023 00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:04,240 miss stating on that but anyway that's 1024 00:43:11,370 --> 00:43:07,780 why I Marisol is is mercury if I Marisol 1025 00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:11,380 is forty nine point six percent mercury 1026 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:13,150 by weight now mercury is a known 1027 00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:15,850 neurotoxin and if we simply look at the 1028 00:43:21,090 --> 00:43:19,420 fact that anything in the vaccine is all 1029 00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:21,100 the ingredients in the vaccine or one 1030 00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:23,680 hundred percent poisonous so how can any 1031 00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:25,990 good become of that but when we look at 1032 00:43:30,750 --> 00:43:28,350 thy Marisol that was a huge huge issue 1033 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:30,760 and you know I look at one study that 1034 00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:32,290 really shocked the heck out of me you 1035 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:33,910 know people say what's the most hey you 1036 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:37,090 go back to 2001 when the University of 1037 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:39,490 Calgary reported in newer report that 1038 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:42,010 mercury vapors you know resultant of 1039 00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:44,410 Molag molecular lesions and brain 1040 00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:46,150 protein metabolism seen an eighty 1041 00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:49,180 percent of Alzheimer patients this was 1042 00:43:53,250 --> 00:43:50,680 actually the first direct evidence that 1043 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:53,260 low-level mercury exposure initiates 1044 00:43:56,970 --> 00:43:55,570 neurodegeneration in the brain what's oh 1045 00:43:59,070 --> 00:43:56,980 yeah and that's what they've been 1046 00:44:01,050 --> 00:43:59,080 putting in flu vaccines everybody by the 1047 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:01,060 way I mean that was up until recently 1048 00:44:04,590 --> 00:44:03,010 they said that they've stopped doing 1049 00:44:06,750 --> 00:44:04,600 that I'm like yeah right how do how do 1050 00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:06,760 we know unless I could test personally 1051 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:08,950 and know what I'm testing for how do I 1052 00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:10,570 know that you're really being honest 1053 00:44:14,190 --> 00:44:12,070 with me well let's look at the 1054 00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:14,200 ingredients currently there are many 1055 00:44:18,460 --> 00:44:16,480 vaccines that don't contain thimerosal 1056 00:44:20,620 --> 00:44:18,470 and that includes the flu shot too 1057 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:20,630 um you know and they're listed in the 1058 00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:22,250 book you know you can see okay I don't 1059 00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:24,230 want that one yes wonder why that one I 1060 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:26,440 don't and go again what I said earlier 1061 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:29,090 it was Goldman that released this study 1062 00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:33,650 in the 2009-2010 flu swine flu campaign 1063 00:44:37,450 --> 00:44:35,359 there was a four thousand two hundred 1064 00:44:40,270 --> 00:44:37,460 fifty percent increase and miscarriages 1065 00:44:42,970 --> 00:44:40,280 and still stillborns yes as a medical 1066 00:44:45,339 --> 00:44:42,980 professional they require us to get flu 1067 00:44:48,220 --> 00:44:45,349 vaccines how about that yeah we don't 1068 00:44:49,930 --> 00:44:48,230 have the choice they force it on us to 1069 00:44:52,810 --> 00:44:49,940 do it it depends on where you are 1070 00:44:55,839 --> 00:44:52,820 because some nurses as the I was in the 1071 00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:55,849 hospital not too long ago she had a mask 1072 00:44:59,440 --> 00:44:57,710 on I said why is that mask honest 1073 00:45:01,240 --> 00:44:59,450 because you have you either have to get 1074 00:45:03,849 --> 00:45:01,250 that mask a good food shot she says oh 1075 00:45:07,810 --> 00:45:03,859 yes and I'm not getting the flu shot I'm 1076 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:07,820 keeping the mask on I'm that person I 1077 00:45:11,470 --> 00:45:09,440 don't get the flu shot either everybody 1078 00:45:13,570 --> 00:45:11,480 thinks I'm crazy I'm like no way not 1079 00:45:17,620 --> 00:45:13,580 doing it and somebody somebody I knew 1080 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:17,630 intimately she she works at a hospital 1081 00:45:23,290 --> 00:45:20,510 and she has part of a union a very large 1082 00:45:26,859 --> 00:45:23,300 Union by the way in rochester in general 1083 00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:26,869 and her her union said no we're not 1084 00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:28,910 going to make the flu shot mandatory to 1085 00:45:33,370 --> 00:45:30,500 our employees they all stuck together 1086 00:45:35,650 --> 00:45:33,380 when we do this as individuals we lose 1087 00:45:38,620 --> 00:45:35,660 we have no ground to stand on but when 1088 00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:38,630 we stick together and when when the 1089 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:40,609 constituents of some of these 1090 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:42,890 politicians stick together and say 1091 00:45:47,050 --> 00:45:44,810 you're not going to get hired or elected 1092 00:45:50,589 --> 00:45:47,060 next next go-around unless this is what 1093 00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:50,599 we get and and that's why it's a matter 1094 00:45:55,870 --> 00:45:52,790 of getting together and it's just like 1095 00:45:58,170 --> 00:45:55,880 this mandatory vaccination referendum 1096 00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:58,180 they brought up in California recently 1097 00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:02,000 and it was brought in the same site that 1098 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:04,430 I mentioned with the doctor senior 1099 00:46:08,829 --> 00:46:06,650 scientist dr. Thompson that admitted 1100 00:46:10,839 --> 00:46:08,839 that the the CDC altered data showed 1101 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:10,849 that the link between MMR vaccine was 1102 00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:13,609 associate with autism he was in that 1103 00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:17,710 same blog you know they're calling for 1104 00:46:22,450 --> 00:46:19,910 members to contact the oversight 1105 00:46:25,210 --> 00:46:22,460 committee on government reform and to 1106 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:25,220 subpoena dr. Thompson to testify as for 1107 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:26,810 the CGC they're gonna let him testify 1108 00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:28,730 unless he subpoenaed 1109 00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:30,740 and so this is what we're looking at 1110 00:46:34,450 --> 00:46:32,960 right now so that needs that needs to 1111 00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:34,460 come and and that's all I going to come 1112 00:46:37,590 --> 00:46:36,110 with people putting pressure on the 1113 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:37,600 Oversight Committee I government reform 1114 00:46:43,450 --> 00:46:40,250 definitely and you know I always say it 1115 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:43,460 in numbers we can move mountains it's 1116 00:46:48,850 --> 00:46:45,650 it's so much easier you know I think 1117 00:46:51,070 --> 00:46:48,860 that in the medical field aside from 1118 00:46:54,250 --> 00:46:51,080 doctors therapists are essentially left 1119 00:46:55,660 --> 00:46:54,260 out of unions we don't have them I mean 1120 00:46:59,380 --> 00:46:55,670 there's a few scattered here and there 1121 00:47:01,690 --> 00:46:59,390 but we really are kind of just left 1122 00:47:05,590 --> 00:47:01,700 hanging nurses got Union cnas have Union 1123 00:47:09,490 --> 00:47:05,600 I mean it's crazy it's crazy but my gosh 1124 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:09,500 i'm personally how I I refuse the the 1125 00:47:14,740 --> 00:47:12,770 flu vaccine is not agreeing to work full 1126 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:14,750 time for anybody but work for myself so 1127 00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:17,330 that's the only way she could do it but 1128 00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:23,390 you know as a again when you're a parent 1129 00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:26,240 and you're met with this type of you 1130 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:28,640 know madness i mean it's it's 1131 00:47:33,970 --> 00:47:30,890 gut-wrenching I've seen it so many times 1132 00:47:36,430 --> 00:47:33,980 with parents and and others when it 1133 00:47:38,830 --> 00:47:36,440 comes to their child getting and you 1134 00:47:40,930 --> 00:47:38,840 know afflicted with such a thing they 1135 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:40,940 feel isolated they fill a low and they 1136 00:47:45,070 --> 00:47:43,370 feel betrayed they don't know who to be 1137 00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:45,080 angry with and I think they might have 1138 00:47:48,970 --> 00:47:46,790 done something themselves and and 1139 00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:48,980 there's just so much and so much 1140 00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:52,550 desperation and I just feel like I don't 1141 00:47:59,290 --> 00:47:55,390 know it's like I wish that there was a 1142 00:48:01,300 --> 00:47:59,300 good foundation for these parents to go 1143 00:48:04,090 --> 00:48:01,310 to and be like this is what you get 1144 00:48:05,890 --> 00:48:04,100 angry at this is what you do this is how 1145 00:48:07,450 --> 00:48:05,900 you go through so I mean is there 1146 00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:07,460 something like that out there that 1147 00:48:12,210 --> 00:48:10,030 people can pull together 1148 00:48:13,860 --> 00:48:12,220 that's a great question i don't know i 1149 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:13,870 don't know and be honest with you I'm 1150 00:48:16,380 --> 00:48:14,770 gonna tell you if I don't know something 1151 00:48:17,850 --> 00:48:16,390 and there's one of the things I don't 1152 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:17,860 know right there but I did want to 1153 00:48:21,390 --> 00:48:18,970 comment on what you said about the flu 1154 00:48:23,250 --> 00:48:21,400 shot um you know the last flu shot i got 1155 00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:23,260 was in 2011 and that's prior to my 1156 00:48:27,390 --> 00:48:25,990 knowledge of anything hmm i went to sort 1157 00:48:29,580 --> 00:48:27,400 of like a paradigm shift in a short 1158 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:29,590 period of time because i was for all you 1159 00:48:32,220 --> 00:48:31,090 know having any kinds of vaccinations 1160 00:48:34,410 --> 00:48:32,230 there's nothing wrong with these things 1161 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:34,420 these people are crazy that think that 1162 00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:36,250 and I you know at the time I was pretty 1163 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:38,230 well read on issues and everything and I 1164 00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:40,450 believed everything to the CDC said 1165 00:48:43,620 --> 00:48:42,040 because they're supposed to watch out 1166 00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:43,630 for her health why would they even 1167 00:48:47,010 --> 00:48:44,950 consider doing something that was 1168 00:48:49,230 --> 00:48:47,020 harmful to us and so I had a paradigm 1169 00:48:51,450 --> 00:48:49,240 shift after educating myself and the 1170 00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:51,460 last flu shot i got my dad said you know 1171 00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:52,990 what are you doing this year he said 1172 00:48:55,740 --> 00:48:54,310 well i'm gonna get the flu shot and he 1173 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:55,750 said well you know that's great i said 1174 00:48:59,580 --> 00:48:57,130 but they don't i said there's no longer 1175 00:49:01,440 --> 00:48:59,590 if I marrow thimerosal in the 1176 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:01,450 administration of the flu shot I was 1177 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,250 gonna get he said yeah that might be 1178 00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:06,240 true John but they still contain aborted 1179 00:49:12,810 --> 00:49:10,510 human of fetal cell lines come on listen 1180 00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:12,820 to women well it gets better he says by 1181 00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:14,230 the way they're contaminated and 1182 00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:16,870 fragmented they contain contaminated and 1183 00:49:22,050 --> 00:49:19,240 fragmented DNA with harmful retroviruses 1184 00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:22,060 well HIV is a retrovirus and the one in 1185 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:24,070 particular hear that dr. died she points 1186 00:49:29,250 --> 00:49:26,410 out is heard of K that's found in MMR to 1187 00:49:32,250 --> 00:49:29,260 vaccine and the chicken pox we have ten 1188 00:49:34,650 --> 00:49:32,260 vaccines currently that that contain 1189 00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:34,660 these boarded human fetal cell lines and 1190 00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:37,360 she points out through her science 1191 00:49:44,340 --> 00:49:41,080 through scpi that it results in things 1192 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:44,350 that are detrimental to a child's health 1193 00:49:49,730 --> 00:49:46,810 and she points out one study actually 1194 00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:49,740 where you know this is something called 1195 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:53,110 insertional mutagenesis big fancy word 1196 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:55,690 for gene therapy where we take we take a 1197 00:50:01,350 --> 00:49:58,690 set of bad genes a replacement with good 1198 00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:01,360 ones to use their therapeutically and 1199 00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:03,280 make things better for us and in the 1200 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:07,990 case of severe immune deficient people 1201 00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:11,170 or children such as bubble boys you know 1202 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:13,120 they're facing maybe getting no better 1203 00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:15,130 without some type of intervention of 1204 00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:17,110 gene therapy and it was actually 1205 00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:19,150 calculated i think by scientists is that 1206 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:21,910 it was a 10 to the negative 16th power 1207 00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:23,410 chance of 1208 00:50:29,539 --> 00:50:25,359 these children con you know coming down 1209 00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:29,549 with leukemia as a result of this gene 1210 00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:31,950 intervention or insertional mutagenesis 1211 00:50:36,809 --> 00:50:34,329 happening just gene therapy and it was 1212 00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:36,819 actually they did nine boys and they 1213 00:50:41,279 --> 00:50:38,520 looked at that study and they found 1214 00:50:43,980 --> 00:50:41,289 forty-four percent of them actually not 1215 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:43,990 ten to the negative 16 power came up 1216 00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:46,720 with leukemia and one died actually so 1217 00:50:50,849 --> 00:50:49,390 oh gosh so you know there's a lot we 1218 00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:50,859 don't know there's more that we don't 1219 00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:53,049 know than we do know but you know and 1220 00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:56,049 it's blinded because we're fed this 1221 00:51:01,020 --> 00:50:58,000 information based on science that is 1222 00:51:04,859 --> 00:51:01,030 either change or not looked at whole 1223 00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:04,869 wholly in its entirety and dissuaded 1224 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:07,839 from questioning anything and that goes 1225 00:51:12,539 --> 00:51:10,210 along with you know the food we eat GMOs 1226 00:51:14,130 --> 00:51:12,549 and it goes along with the laws that 1227 00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:14,140 have been changed like the consolidated 1228 00:51:19,859 --> 00:51:15,670 and further continuing appropriations 1229 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:19,869 act of 2013 signed by Obama better known 1230 00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:22,089 as the farmer assurance provision writer 1231 00:51:27,539 --> 00:51:25,750 which was added the 11th hour but notice 1232 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:27,549 the Monsanto Protection Act you know you 1233 00:51:33,930 --> 00:51:30,880 can't sue sue them you know they're 1234 00:51:36,269 --> 00:51:33,940 protected just as the is the Homeland 1235 00:51:38,730 --> 00:51:36,279 Security Act protects manufacturers and 1236 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:38,740 that was under the you know what is a 1237 00:51:46,380 --> 00:51:41,410 vaccine have to do with national 1238 00:51:49,529 --> 00:51:46,390 security and it's just that's madness 1239 00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:49,539 well what what did it simply reinforce 1240 00:51:54,359 --> 00:51:52,630 with with the vaccine national childhood 1241 00:51:57,059 --> 00:51:54,369 vaccine immunization act said and 1242 00:51:59,279 --> 00:51:57,069 determined by the vaccine injury 1243 00:52:00,510 --> 00:51:59,289 compensation program that you know you 1244 00:52:03,269 --> 00:52:00,520 couldn't really sue a vaccine 1245 00:52:05,250 --> 00:52:03,279 manufacturer even if there was death or 1246 00:52:06,990 --> 00:52:05,260 injuries resulting in the use of a 1247 00:52:09,180 --> 00:52:07,000 vaccine when it was properly 1248 00:52:11,849 --> 00:52:09,190 administered and then it was reinforced 1249 00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:11,859 by Homeland Security in 2002 which which 1250 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:13,750 went on to state under the red herring 1251 00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:15,490 again of national curious you know what 1252 00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:17,440 I'm gonna fight for the thug on the 1253 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:19,359 street who's selling drugs and if 1254 00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:21,609 somebody overdoses they can't be held 1255 00:52:27,029 --> 00:52:24,430 liable what the same protection I know 1256 00:52:29,069 --> 00:52:27,039 that really we can extend it to that 1257 00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:29,079 what mean honestly you know I hate to 1258 00:52:32,250 --> 00:52:30,400 say but we've got to get to our next 1259 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:32,260 break you guys listen to me heidi hollis 1260 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:34,810 d outlander and we'll be right back 1261 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:37,210 welcome back everybody listen to me 1262 00:52:43,110 --> 00:52:40,210 honey house the Outlander and my 1263 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:43,120 goodness we are enjoying really really 1264 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:44,770 really interesting and important 1265 00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:47,530 conversation with my guest Johnny Micah 1266 00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:50,620 and we're speaking about the autistic 1267 00:52:57,950 --> 00:52:54,910 Holocaust and its really kind of seems 1268 00:53:01,410 --> 00:52:57,960 like that honestly pandemic epidemic and 1269 00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:01,420 it's just when I look at it from the 1270 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:03,070 perspective of being a medical 1271 00:53:07,470 --> 00:53:05,050 professional and looking at you know all 1272 00:53:11,310 --> 00:53:07,480 the those that get afflicted with this I 1273 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:11,320 feel like it's almost hopeless as far as 1274 00:53:14,970 --> 00:53:13,030 those who keep getting diagnosed with 1275 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:14,980 this the kids I don't see as hopeless i 1276 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:17,440 see so much potential in them and the 1277 00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:18,970 sparkle in their eyes and the joy and 1278 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:21,940 you know in the parents they they really 1279 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:23,530 are supportive of every little 1280 00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:25,450 accomplishment and those accomplishments 1281 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:28,030 are huge and there's so much room for 1282 00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:30,730 for growth because if you get to the 1283 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:32,470 kids young enough i mean there's a lot 1284 00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:35,890 that can be accomplished so I mean when 1285 00:53:40,530 --> 00:53:37,900 I when I look at the bigger picture and 1286 00:53:43,050 --> 00:53:40,540 pull back and pan back and and it's like 1287 00:53:46,410 --> 00:53:43,060 and they're making money off from making 1288 00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:46,420 kids sick I it sickens me to hear I'm 1289 00:53:50,910 --> 00:53:48,790 like what but and then you're talking 1290 00:53:52,740 --> 00:53:50,920 about you know this big pharmaceutical 1291 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:52,750 companies got there nice lobbyists up 1292 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:54,490 there in Washington that are like and 1293 00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:56,530 we're going to make the law that we can 1294 00:54:01,260 --> 00:53:59,170 destroy lives and brains and children 1295 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:01,270 and nobody could touch us and we're 1296 00:54:05,130 --> 00:54:03,490 gonna keep doing this okay alright cool 1297 00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:05,140 but the guy that's on the street who 1298 00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:07,750 sells his little dope and one guy 1299 00:54:13,770 --> 00:54:10,390 overdoses on the dope he sold them he 1300 00:54:16,110 --> 00:54:13,780 could go down for murder so what are we 1301 00:54:17,970 --> 00:54:16,120 seeing how do we get these murderers I 1302 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:17,980 mean they are murderers if they know 1303 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:19,570 what they're what they're slinging on 1304 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:22,210 the street corner is killing kids how do 1305 00:54:26,010 --> 00:54:24,010 we how do we take them out how do we get 1306 00:54:27,690 --> 00:54:26,020 them to pay the price of what they're 1307 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:27,700 doing the cigarette companies had to do 1308 00:54:31,950 --> 00:54:29,970 it i think it's i think it's their turn 1309 00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:31,960 well you know you're talking about 1310 00:54:37,350 --> 00:54:35,920 accountability and aside from autism and 1311 00:54:39,630 --> 00:54:37,360 the laws the way they're set up right 1312 00:54:41,730 --> 00:54:39,640 now just look at the bankers and how 1313 00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:41,740 they were rewarded with the retirements 1314 00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:44,200 in the millions of dollars when we had 1315 00:54:50,190 --> 00:54:45,280 the the 1316 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:50,200 the recent huge problem with our 1317 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:53,890 financial situation it wasn't a 1318 00:54:58,130 --> 00:54:56,050 depression but it was close to it and so 1319 00:55:01,170 --> 00:54:58,140 you know and here we are accountability 1320 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:01,180 that the government doesn't hold these 1321 00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:03,850 bankers accountable for in Iceland they 1322 00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:05,710 did they held the bankers accountable 1323 00:55:10,350 --> 00:55:07,900 and they did jail time and some of these 1324 00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:10,360 officials need to be held accountable in 1325 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:13,120 the CDC where they get jail sentence to 1326 00:55:18,090 --> 00:55:16,210 jail time when things go when things go 1327 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:18,100 bad and we also need to look at the laws 1328 00:55:21,570 --> 00:55:19,690 you know some of these laws need to be 1329 00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:21,580 changed or you know the freedom of 1330 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:23,830 choice has been taken away freedom of 1331 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:26,290 choice is being eroded on a slow basis 1332 00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:28,330 and when you know we start the road and 1333 00:55:31,770 --> 00:55:30,400 we know but something's bad at the you 1334 00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:31,780 know we're four blocks away we know 1335 00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:34,390 something's bad and we you know we get a 1336 00:55:37,950 --> 00:55:36,310 little incentive to go a couple feet and 1337 00:55:39,570 --> 00:55:37,960 you know things get better you know 1338 00:55:41,370 --> 00:55:39,580 that's so bad they don't seem so bad and 1339 00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:41,380 then pretty soon you move along you move 1340 00:55:44,670 --> 00:55:42,910 along you move along and you're 1341 00:55:46,890 --> 00:55:44,680 wondering how I got it this bad spotted 1342 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:46,900 the traffic light and it happens over a 1343 00:55:50,010 --> 00:55:48,610 period of time it doesn't happen 1344 00:55:53,130 --> 00:55:50,020 instantly and so that's what we're 1345 00:55:56,490 --> 00:55:53,140 looking at now and so you know it's 1346 00:55:58,590 --> 00:55:56,500 about basically just you know being 1347 00:56:00,740 --> 00:55:58,600 aware which a lot of people aren't and 1348 00:56:03,950 --> 00:56:00,750 you know it's an entertainment society 1349 00:56:06,030 --> 00:56:03,960 everything's entertainment driven and 1350 00:56:07,470 --> 00:56:06,040 apathy you know a lot of people just 1351 00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:07,480 simply don't care and unless you have a 1352 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:08,830 child that's autistic you're going to 1353 00:56:13,140 --> 00:56:10,690 have a vested interest in this thing and 1354 00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:13,150 you know because it was commented to me 1355 00:56:17,790 --> 00:56:15,340 by one lashes I'm sick and tired of 1356 00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:17,800 these seen so many kids that are injured 1357 00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:21,520 by these vaccines and thats you know 1358 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:24,160 really not brought to light you know 1359 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:25,810 it's it's the benefit to the vaccines 1360 00:56:31,290 --> 00:56:27,850 the benefits one of the leaders of the 1361 00:56:33,570 --> 00:56:31,300 organization Arlene denim and vaccine 1362 00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:33,580 Liberation Organization has a campaign 1363 00:56:38,190 --> 00:56:36,400 going on lemon to Thomas Gandhi how much 1364 00:56:41,970 --> 00:56:38,200 cantata the greatest lie ever told that 1365 00:56:44,070 --> 00:56:41,980 vaccines are safe and effective and 1366 00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:44,080 they're not they're certainly not that 1367 00:56:47,550 --> 00:56:45,520 was like a kuna Matata that was 1368 00:56:49,470 --> 00:56:47,560 something else Hakuna Matata yeah I'm 1369 00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:49,480 interior must condemn us Katara you know 1370 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:53,680 good that's no that's that's why it's so 1371 00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:56,290 okay so you've gotta say that somebody 1372 00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:57,910 has a brand new baby and I know that 1373 00:57:00,900 --> 00:56:58,930 you're not one to say 1374 00:57:04,349 --> 00:57:00,910 don't get your child vaccinated but if 1375 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:04,359 there were a list or a couple that you 1376 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:06,130 could or would avoid say if it was to 1377 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:08,290 your brand-new child which one would you 1378 00:57:14,910 --> 00:57:12,250 be most cautious about that MMR well 1379 00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,920 there's a litany of those but you know 1380 00:57:18,329 --> 00:57:16,720 I'm looking at the schedule and often 1381 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:18,339 these kids get them we have something 1382 00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:19,930 called a baby well visit and I know you 1383 00:57:24,089 --> 00:57:22,000 know what that is you know you bring 1384 00:57:25,829 --> 00:57:24,099 your kid in for a certain time every so 1385 00:57:26,930 --> 00:57:25,839 I've mounts and whatever and the doctor 1386 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:26,940 might recommend a vaccination 1387 00:57:31,530 --> 00:57:29,290 accordingly Advisory Committee an 1388 00:57:33,569 --> 00:57:31,540 imitation practices and there's there's 1389 00:57:35,609 --> 00:57:33,579 many cases where you know these children 1390 00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:35,619 go in for a simple shot that's supposed 1391 00:57:39,450 --> 00:57:36,609 to be good for and prevent them from 1392 00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:39,460 getting a disease and they die you know 1393 00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,040 in fact we have something called the 1394 00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:43,680 vaccine adverse event reporting system 1395 00:57:50,579 --> 00:57:46,960 and that's in combination with the CDC 1396 00:57:53,339 --> 00:57:50,589 and the FDA that it's anybody can make a 1397 00:57:54,809 --> 00:57:53,349 report to bars so it's not extended the 1398 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:54,819 entire credibility that it should 1399 00:58:00,809 --> 00:57:57,010 because anybody can a parent can call in 1400 00:58:02,910 --> 00:58:00,819 anybody can call in and it's been stated 1401 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:02,920 that only one to ten percent of all 1402 00:58:07,770 --> 00:58:05,890 adverse event events as a result of a 1403 00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:07,780 vaccine are ever even reported to the 1404 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:11,230 bars and so if we look at the sudden 1405 00:58:16,289 --> 00:58:14,650 infant death syndrome SIDS vars SIDS 1406 00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:16,299 accounts for fifty percent of all bars 1407 00:58:21,390 --> 00:58:19,200 deaths and many of these are mislabeled 1408 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:21,400 SIDS when they're actually vaccine 1409 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:23,770 injuries the death resulting as a 1410 00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:26,170 vaccine injury and and there are many 1411 00:58:31,799 --> 00:58:28,809 cases of that and in fact on a baby well 1412 00:58:34,170 --> 00:58:31,809 visit 1 i'll leave unnamed at this time 1413 00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:34,180 one parent of parents who brought their 1414 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:36,640 kid in for a baby well visit the child 1415 00:58:41,130 --> 00:58:39,250 you know his i started rolling back and 1416 00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:41,140 he's having problems he went in for a 1417 00:58:48,210 --> 00:58:44,559 booster shot and and he died and and the 1418 00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:48,220 parents were blamed the manifestation of 1419 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:51,280 the the shot looked like the child got 1420 00:58:55,890 --> 00:58:54,730 beat his brain swollen and he had all 1421 00:58:58,109 --> 00:58:55,900 kinds of other problems and issues 1422 00:59:00,059 --> 00:58:58,119 resulting in his death and then the 1423 00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:00,069 detectives were come in and the guy was 1424 00:59:03,780 --> 00:59:02,049 sent charged and sentence and committed 1425 00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:03,790 you know it was in jail for six years 1426 00:59:09,660 --> 00:59:05,950 and he had one sympathetic doctor that 1427 00:59:11,370 --> 00:59:09,670 actually was pro for his cause and 1428 00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:11,380 got exonerated was charges there's 1429 00:59:14,730 --> 00:59:13,030 people right now there's people right 1430 00:59:16,349 --> 00:59:14,740 now that are facing that there's there's 1431 00:59:18,210 --> 00:59:16,359 people in prison right now that are 1432 00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:18,220 doing time for something the vaccine did 1433 00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:20,559 isn't that horrible and the wrong people 1434 00:59:25,470 --> 00:59:23,200 are sitting behind bars heavy I mean 1435 00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:25,480 you've heard of sad sudden adult death 1436 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:28,960 syndrome I'm wondering if you know what 1437 00:59:33,210 --> 00:59:31,210 I know that some of these vaccinations 1438 00:59:36,359 --> 00:59:33,220 that have been given to adults or 1439 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:36,369 teenagers that people are dropping dead 1440 00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:37,930 or they're they're becoming ill from 1441 00:59:44,130 --> 00:59:40,089 them and I wonder if the sudden adult 1442 00:59:45,809 --> 00:59:44,140 death are a direct cause of that you 1443 00:59:48,539 --> 00:59:45,819 know I I mean it was in the news over 1444 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:48,549 here in Chicago of uh i think it was a 1445 00:59:52,829 --> 00:59:50,170 19 year old girl I mean she had just 1446 00:59:55,650 --> 00:59:52,839 gotten the flu vaccine and when I talk 1447 00:59:58,049 --> 00:59:55,660 Oman died you know so I mean it's it 1448 00:59:59,730 --> 00:59:58,059 happens and you know but they surely 1449 01:00:02,039 --> 00:59:59,740 don't put it on the the news all the 1450 01:00:03,809 --> 01:00:02,049 time because that really makes these 1451 01:00:06,690 --> 01:00:03,819 billionaires look guilty and they don't 1452 01:00:08,370 --> 01:00:06,700 want to look guilty you know so no I 1453 01:00:09,660 --> 01:00:08,380 wouldn't either if I was resulted in 1454 01:00:12,059 --> 01:00:09,670 somebody's death and I could hide behind 1455 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:12,069 the law and I I could get my job and not 1456 01:00:15,630 --> 01:00:13,930 go to jail that would be fine with me I 1457 01:00:18,329 --> 01:00:15,640 could live with that but yeah actually 1458 01:00:20,490 --> 01:00:18,339 konchem conscionable a dr. thomas 1459 01:00:23,930 --> 01:00:20,500 thompson couldn't with the CDC and he 1460 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:23,940 reached out to somebody that has a child 1461 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:27,250 there's a vaccine injury and and he went 1462 01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:29,890 on to you know to work in his behalf and 1463 01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:31,720 so actually it was dr. Thompson it 1464 01:00:38,210 --> 01:00:34,270 probably stated that the data was was 1465 01:00:41,130 --> 01:00:38,220 was not what it should have been and so 1466 01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:41,140 and we talked about we talked about 1467 01:00:46,890 --> 01:00:44,799 death for adults I know of one person 1468 01:00:48,690 --> 01:00:46,900 personally that has an organization re 1469 01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,700 i'll leave the organization unnamed 1470 01:00:54,030 --> 01:00:50,400 because she actually gets death threats 1471 01:00:57,059 --> 01:00:54,040 for speaking out against vaccinations oh 1472 01:00:59,579 --> 01:00:57,069 gosh yeah death threats and so yeah I 1473 01:01:03,030 --> 01:00:59,589 wonder who that could be hmm um it 1474 01:01:05,940 --> 01:01:03,040 wouldn't be your neighbor I mean she's 1475 01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:05,950 actually for people that are actually it 1476 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:07,750 competent it could be a neighbor that 1477 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:11,530 sides with the CDC and says you sob why 1478 01:01:15,180 --> 01:01:13,210 are you saying this you're threatening 1479 01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:15,190 my child's livelihood and safety by 1480 01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:17,950 spreading it garbage you know shame on 1481 01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,710 shame on you and she's got 1482 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:21,359 I guess there's fanatics out there I 1483 01:01:24,740 --> 01:01:22,890 could see that I oh that's that's 1484 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:24,750 mainstream that's not back at its is and 1485 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:28,650 that's mainstream and so you know and I 1486 01:01:33,970 --> 01:01:30,570 think it was her sister that actually 1487 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:33,980 regressed into autism after a shot and 1488 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:40,770 and she you know she died she got so um 1489 01:01:44,870 --> 01:01:42,930 you know these things they can kill 1490 01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:44,880 people do they always know do children 1491 01:01:50,420 --> 01:01:47,280 always get autism or results in death 1492 01:01:51,829 --> 01:01:50,430 after vaccination absolutely not does 1493 01:01:53,420 --> 01:01:51,839 everyone get sick when they get a shot 1494 01:01:55,700 --> 01:01:53,430 well there's something called side 1495 01:01:57,290 --> 01:01:55,710 effects right and and there's no such 1496 01:02:00,200 --> 01:01:57,300 thing as a side effect to a vaccination 1497 01:02:02,540 --> 01:02:00,210 it's always an effect and it's in some 1498 01:02:04,490 --> 01:02:02,550 cases it's very bad encephalopathy and 1499 01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:04,500 in some cases is death and in some cases 1500 01:02:08,450 --> 01:02:06,240 just a sore arm but there's always an 1501 01:02:10,609 --> 01:02:08,460 effect it's not a side effect it's an 1502 01:02:12,620 --> 01:02:10,619 effect right that's the weekend we have 1503 01:02:14,780 --> 01:02:12,630 an effective introduction of a poisonous 1504 01:02:16,310 --> 01:02:14,790 toxin in our system and some people 1505 01:02:18,650 --> 01:02:16,320 handle it better than others you know 1506 01:02:20,210 --> 01:02:18,660 the FDA is supposed to be here to you 1507 01:02:22,339 --> 01:02:20,220 know make sure that things are not 1508 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:22,349 brought into mainstream that are harmful 1509 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:24,570 to us but it seems like the vaccinations 1510 01:02:30,589 --> 01:02:28,650 get a pass but when you know there's a I 1511 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:30,599 don't know if you heard about this but 1512 01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:32,730 like Cuba and other countries they have 1513 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:36,000 this medication that can help prevent 1514 01:02:41,630 --> 01:02:39,330 type 2 diabetics from having amputations 1515 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:41,640 and oh but it's got to go through our 1516 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:43,410 process it's got to be proven to be safe 1517 01:02:48,130 --> 01:02:45,330 because golly we'd hate for people to 1518 01:02:50,990 --> 01:02:48,140 keep their limbs I think like the worst 1519 01:02:52,849 --> 01:02:51,000 disease that occurs that I see is an 1520 01:02:56,359 --> 01:02:52,859 epidemic also for adults as type 2 1521 01:02:58,099 --> 01:02:56,369 diabetes I mean heart disease stroke you 1522 01:03:01,490 --> 01:02:58,109 get a little cut on your foot you lose 1523 01:03:04,010 --> 01:03:01,500 your leg I mean it's just it's an awful 1524 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:04,020 awful disease you good on dialysis it's 1525 01:03:08,089 --> 01:03:06,810 just ongoing and here's something here 1526 01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:08,099 was this medication I don't know the 1527 01:03:12,829 --> 01:03:09,480 name of it off the top of my head that 1528 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:12,839 that can prevent these amputations that 1529 01:03:18,770 --> 01:03:15,690 are destroying lives but it's got to get 1530 01:03:20,180 --> 01:03:18,780 past our stuff FDA what the heck are 1531 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:20,190 they where they give in the path to the 1532 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:22,650 vaccinations then because they think 1533 01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:25,650 they're protecting us more I know it's 1534 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:27,510 really quite simple I mean if we look at 1535 01:03:30,850 --> 01:03:29,730 the prescription drug user fee act that 1536 01:03:33,340 --> 01:03:30,860 was 1537 01:03:34,660 --> 01:03:33,350 91a came about because they drugs drug 1538 01:03:36,700 --> 01:03:34,670 companies used to have to take years to 1539 01:03:38,620 --> 01:03:36,710 bring a drug market drug to market and 1540 01:03:41,140 --> 01:03:38,630 forbes estimated that ninety-five 1541 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:41,150 percent of all drugs are unsafe for an 1542 01:03:46,060 --> 01:03:43,730 effective well due to that Padula a 1543 01:03:48,250 --> 01:03:46,070 queer our fifth version of that correct 1544 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:48,260 right now sign into legislation most 1545 01:03:52,330 --> 01:03:50,690 recently by president obama that drugs 1546 01:03:55,660 --> 01:03:52,340 can come to market within six months as 1547 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:55,670 long as they're proven safe to be safe 1548 01:03:59,860 --> 01:03:56,810 and effective for life-threatening 1549 01:04:03,240 --> 01:03:59,870 situations and we have the accelerated 1550 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:03,250 approval and priority review that was a 1551 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:07,130 combined with that so that now what the 1552 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:09,650 FDA does is they get huge fees from 1553 01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:11,450 these pharmaceutical companies well over 1554 01:04:16,270 --> 01:04:13,280 two million dollars to approve a new 1555 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:16,280 drug and all I have to do is prove two 1556 01:04:20,740 --> 01:04:18,650 studies not know phase three studies 1557 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:20,750 which is the most in the costly of 1558 01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:22,730 millions of dollars to do a phase 3 1559 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:25,910 study with controls and whatnot and look 1560 01:04:29,860 --> 01:04:27,770 at now you get some drugs that shouldn't 1561 01:04:32,020 --> 01:04:29,870 be approved like avandia okay you know 1562 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:32,030 that I'm glad to hear that that got 1563 01:04:36,930 --> 01:04:34,010 changed because that has been like a 1564 01:04:39,970 --> 01:04:36,940 thorn and the foot of so much progress 1565 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:39,980 truly I mean it's it's sickening but 1566 01:04:44,290 --> 01:04:41,210 this is something that was actually 1567 01:04:46,570 --> 01:04:44,300 brought up more recently as far as this 1568 01:04:48,430 --> 01:04:46,580 new medication for the type 2 diabetes 1569 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:48,440 and now they were running into issues 1570 01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:51,050 that it just was not being allowed to be 1571 01:04:54,580 --> 01:04:52,910 brought here to the country I do and 1572 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:54,590 it's used all throughout Europe and 1573 01:04:59,350 --> 01:04:56,330 whatnot but in the United States has the 1574 01:05:01,690 --> 01:04:59,360 number one case cases as far as 1575 01:05:03,550 --> 01:05:01,700 amputations for type 2 diabetics I don't 1576 01:05:04,750 --> 01:05:03,560 know what the holdup is I don't know if 1577 01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:04,760 they're not they don't like the color of 1578 01:05:08,860 --> 01:05:07,280 their money i don't know but but there 1579 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:08,870 are still some old ups going on out 1580 01:05:12,790 --> 01:05:10,370 there but i'm glad to hear that that 1581 01:05:15,700 --> 01:05:12,800 that a lot of that is being shaken down 1582 01:05:18,730 --> 01:05:15,710 because hello president obama he had his 1583 01:05:20,890 --> 01:05:18,740 mother sit there and you know passed 1584 01:05:23,830 --> 01:05:20,900 away and I remember him speaking that 1585 01:05:27,250 --> 01:05:23,840 you know even on her last days she was 1586 01:05:29,380 --> 01:05:27,260 arguing with you know companies about 1587 01:05:30,790 --> 01:05:29,390 her medical bills and he's like this is 1588 01:05:32,770 --> 01:05:30,800 crazy you know you're on your deathbed 1589 01:05:34,090 --> 01:05:32,780 and you're trying to just survive and 1590 01:05:35,980 --> 01:05:34,100 make it and you have all these other 1591 01:05:39,310 --> 01:05:35,990 stresses so I good on him for getting 1592 01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:39,320 that shaken down there we really haven't 1593 01:05:42,370 --> 01:05:40,880 shaken down avandia because what 1594 01:05:44,210 --> 01:05:42,380 happened recently this was announced 1595 01:05:46,089 --> 01:05:44,220 actually it was one of the man you 1596 01:05:48,740 --> 01:05:46,099 extras in pharmaceutical come 1597 01:05:51,020 --> 01:05:48,750 glaxosmithkline that gave Duke 1598 01:05:53,630 --> 01:05:51,030 University 1.5 million dollars to do a 1599 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:53,640 safety study and they determined that 1600 01:05:58,339 --> 01:05:56,130 avandia was safe again after it was 1601 01:06:02,300 --> 01:05:58,349 resulted in a hundred thousand deaths oh 1602 01:06:05,180 --> 01:06:02,310 boy okay so here we have a case of the 1603 01:06:07,580 --> 01:06:05,190 the Fox you know the fox guarding over 1604 01:06:09,170 --> 01:06:07,590 the chicken coop and and now it's okay 1605 01:06:11,150 --> 01:06:09,180 and all they've been done with avandia 1606 01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:11,160 is it's okay to use it now even though 1607 01:06:14,990 --> 01:06:13,440 it's not a different formulation it's 1608 01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:15,000 just that there was a study that said 1609 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:16,980 it's okay and all they got slept with 1610 01:06:24,620 --> 01:06:20,130 was a risk evaluation mitigating 1611 01:06:26,570 --> 01:06:24,630 strategy our EMS label and so you know 1612 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:26,580 it's just you know that's it it's fine 1613 01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:28,770 now I'm gonna start packaging up some 1614 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:31,369 cleaners I got here in the house and 1615 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:33,810 let's see if they'll pass that too and 1616 01:06:38,050 --> 01:06:36,090 be like what what's the problem I mean 1617 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:38,060 good my goodness it almost sounds like 1618 01:06:42,620 --> 01:06:40,770 anything goes as long as the the your 1619 01:06:44,570 --> 01:06:42,630 money's green enough I I don't get it 1620 01:06:46,310 --> 01:06:44,580 that's yeah it's it's all about 1621 01:06:47,330 --> 01:06:46,320 following the money and I think that I 1622 01:06:49,579 --> 01:06:47,340 don't think it's a matter of 1623 01:06:52,310 --> 01:06:49,589 insidiousness as much as and that's the 1624 01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:52,320 resultant of it it's not that it's so 1625 01:06:58,130 --> 01:06:54,240 much per phidias insidious and it is 1626 01:07:00,170 --> 01:06:58,140 really it's unconscionable and it's 1627 01:07:03,020 --> 01:07:00,180 unconscionable but it all goes back to 1628 01:07:05,089 --> 01:07:03,030 it all goes back to a dollar and as the 1629 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:05,099 vaccine companies manufacturers of these 1630 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:07,290 vaccines you know they're looking to 1631 01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:09,210 save billions and billions and make 1632 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:12,089 billions of dollars by by pushing a 1633 01:07:17,180 --> 01:07:15,330 product that is known to be harmful yes 1634 01:07:19,820 --> 01:07:17,190 kind of going on that note you know the 1635 01:07:21,500 --> 01:07:19,830 United States it's famous for you know 1636 01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:21,510 keeping people sick because you know 1637 01:07:25,579 --> 01:07:23,520 healthy people don't make you money so 1638 01:07:27,230 --> 01:07:25,589 of course it keep it will sick and you 1639 01:07:28,790 --> 01:07:27,240 got to eat my drug in order to survive 1640 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:28,800 of course they want to keep you there 1641 01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:31,410 though we got we've got in the vault the 1642 01:07:34,670 --> 01:07:33,030 Cure hidden but we're going to keep 1643 01:07:36,980 --> 01:07:34,680 feeding you these little cookie crumbs 1644 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:36,990 but they'll only give it to their family 1645 01:07:42,890 --> 01:07:40,170 and friends otherwise but you offer a 1646 01:07:44,450 --> 01:07:42,900 you know suggestions as far as what are 1647 01:07:47,030 --> 01:07:44,460 the best treatments for offsetting 1648 01:07:48,770 --> 01:07:47,040 symptoms what is it that you suggest is 1649 01:07:51,339 --> 01:07:48,780 it is it all having to do with the diet 1650 01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:51,349 or activities what are you suggesting 1651 01:07:56,140 --> 01:07:54,000 well there's a holistic approach in 1652 01:07:57,860 --> 01:07:56,150 there too and let's look at homeopathic 1653 01:08:01,570 --> 01:07:57,870 my son by the 1654 01:08:04,730 --> 01:08:01,580 his diagnosis went from Asperger's to 1655 01:08:08,110 --> 01:08:04,740 autism spectrum disorder and that was 1656 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:08,120 confirmed in July of his 28th birthday 1657 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:12,090 he's 28 now he is 28 now and his 1658 01:08:16,190 --> 01:08:14,130 diagnosis was confirmed at 28 years of 1659 01:08:19,070 --> 01:08:16,200 age Wow dick followed and that's very 1660 01:08:21,230 --> 01:08:19,080 well the thing is he went to homeopathic 1661 01:08:22,970 --> 01:08:21,240 neurologist and she actually has to see 1662 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:22,980 every sample of thing he ate for the 1663 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:25,770 last 30 days and so yes it's dietary 1664 01:08:29,420 --> 01:08:27,810 intervention diet by by the way dr. 1665 01:08:30,770 --> 01:08:29,430 Gosar brought this in the Oversight 1666 01:08:32,540 --> 01:08:30,780 Committee on Government Reform hearing 1667 01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:32,550 in 2012 is it the root cause of 1668 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:35,310 everything as far as what's related to 1669 01:08:41,270 --> 01:08:37,890 health and you know he's got 13 members 1670 01:08:43,370 --> 01:08:41,280 of his family that are celiac sprue and 1671 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:43,380 so shopping for him is nightmare but 1672 01:08:47,540 --> 01:08:45,570 diet and what he did it was removed all 1673 01:08:49,670 --> 01:08:47,550 the genetically modified foods from his 1674 01:08:51,740 --> 01:08:49,680 diet and there's a big thing too with 1675 01:08:53,660 --> 01:08:51,750 you know Monsanto is controlling most of 1676 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:53,670 the world's food supply and half of ours 1677 01:08:59,630 --> 01:08:57,210 to say these things are good mandatory 1678 01:09:01,310 --> 01:08:59,640 labeling is also something that you may 1679 01:09:04,190 --> 01:09:01,320 not see because there's a bill right now 1680 01:09:06,250 --> 01:09:04,200 I introduced that you know that may 1681 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:06,260 override any state mandatory labeling 1682 01:09:14,060 --> 01:09:10,130 that you know it's a federal thing it's 1683 01:09:17,660 --> 01:09:14,070 it was a referendum SB 227 now that 1684 01:09:19,490 --> 01:09:17,670 ain't a theater dark act that was the 1685 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:19,500 safe and accurate food labeling after 1686 01:09:23,690 --> 01:09:21,690 2015 that was introduced by 1687 01:09:26,210 --> 01:09:23,700 representative mike palmer popper arrow 1688 01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:26,220 known as the deny Americans right to 1689 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:29,550 know act because you know dark mandatory 1690 01:09:34,940 --> 01:09:32,490 GMO labeling efforts and see it would 1691 01:09:36,170 --> 01:09:34,950 preempt state level banded mandatory 1692 01:09:38,420 --> 01:09:36,180 labeling we're getting the federal 1693 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:38,430 government involved here overruling any 1694 01:09:43,940 --> 01:09:41,010 state legislation that would would 1695 01:09:45,710 --> 01:09:43,950 declare that you know that they wouldn't 1696 01:09:47,180 --> 01:09:45,720 have to label these things and some 1697 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:47,190 manufacturers are taking this upon 1698 01:09:52,190 --> 01:09:49,770 themselves ninety percent of people in 1699 01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:52,200 the country as survey what their foods 1700 01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,110 labeled GMOs are not GMOs and that's 1701 01:09:59,410 --> 01:09:57,360 going to cost billions of dollars again 1702 01:10:01,850 --> 01:09:59,420 and that's going to cut into profits so 1703 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:01,860 yeah I right about that in the book diet 1704 01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:03,570 dietary intervention there's all kinds 1705 01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:06,110 of therapies the book isn't so much on 1706 01:10:11,209 --> 01:10:08,490 you know all the treatments available 1707 01:10:13,370 --> 01:10:11,219 but I do list all the organizations 1708 01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:13,380 that can link you or they can send you 1709 01:10:16,969 --> 01:10:14,880 or can personally help you or talk to 1710 01:10:20,930 --> 01:10:16,979 you through any interventions that you 1711 01:10:24,169 --> 01:10:20,940 may want to pursue to help your child 1712 01:10:27,739 --> 01:10:24,179 with autism my goodness you know it does 1713 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:27,749 seem to come down to that at that you 1714 01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:30,210 know it's about looking out for yourself 1715 01:10:36,589 --> 01:10:33,030 and looking for what's natural you know 1716 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:36,599 I have learned that there are several 1717 01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:40,530 countries that do not allow for GMOs to 1718 01:10:46,669 --> 01:10:44,400 be be created yeah 64 yeah let's count 1719 01:10:49,609 --> 01:10:46,679 and so here we are we allow um not only 1720 01:10:51,799 --> 01:10:49,619 at but we allow them not to be labeled 1721 01:10:53,870 --> 01:10:51,809 and that they're banned in 64 countries 1722 01:10:57,620 --> 01:10:53,880 so what what do they know that we don't 1723 01:10:59,989 --> 01:10:57,630 know yeah in India they had like 250,000 1724 01:11:02,359 --> 01:10:59,999 farmers commit suicide because of GMO 1725 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:02,369 usage and some of them like a hundred 1726 01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:04,050 thousand of them committed suicide by 1727 01:11:09,620 --> 01:11:07,710 ingesting the herbicide Roundup to you 1728 01:11:11,870 --> 01:11:09,630 know which is glyphosate which is the 1729 01:11:14,899 --> 01:11:11,880 main ingredient is a GMO genetically 1730 01:11:16,700 --> 01:11:14,909 engineered things so I won't even have 1731 01:11:19,069 --> 01:11:16,710 time to get into that because we only 1732 01:11:21,469 --> 01:11:19,079 got like a few minutes left but uh but 1733 01:11:23,419 --> 01:11:21,479 that's in the book I based studies and 1734 01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:23,429 people that are whistleblowers put on 1735 01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:25,110 quote from on Santos that bring things 1736 01:11:29,390 --> 01:11:27,630 to light and there's so many things in 1737 01:11:30,919 --> 01:11:29,400 the book I don't mention but again it's 1738 01:11:32,509 --> 01:11:30,929 just enough to know just enough to whet 1739 01:11:35,419 --> 01:11:32,519 your whistle and and find out what's 1740 01:11:37,879 --> 01:11:35,429 going on definitely well tell people how 1741 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:37,889 they can get a hold of you get a hold of 1742 01:11:42,379 --> 01:11:39,449 your book and how could they get an 1743 01:11:44,419 --> 01:11:42,389 autographed copy that's well yeah of 1744 01:11:46,399 --> 01:11:44,429 course trying day won't give you an 1745 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:46,409 autographed copy a kindle won't give you 1746 01:11:49,850 --> 01:11:48,090 an autographed copy neither will amazon 1747 01:11:52,129 --> 01:11:49,860 but you can get a book in that in that 1748 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:52,139 regard many people will if you want a 1749 01:11:55,939 --> 01:11:54,090 personally autographed copy one lady in 1750 01:11:57,739 --> 01:11:55,949 Rochester I don't know what she may not 1751 01:12:00,020 --> 01:11:57,749 call in tonight because of the time but 1752 01:12:02,419 --> 01:12:00,030 she read the book and she was just 1753 01:12:05,569 --> 01:12:02,429 amazed and she gave it to every one of 1754 01:12:09,109 --> 01:12:05,579 her children and all she did was send 1755 01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:09,119 something to John jo-ann dot e as an 1756 01:12:15,650 --> 01:12:13,440 Edward a mica em I see a at Andy and Sam 1757 01:12:19,710 --> 01:12:15,660 peter is P calm 1758 01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:19,720 Micah at ISP calm and that way you can 1759 01:12:24,090 --> 01:12:21,790 get a personally autographed copy of the 1760 01:12:25,710 --> 01:12:24,100 book dedicated to anybody you want and a 1761 01:12:28,350 --> 01:12:25,720 portion of that will also go to the e 1762 01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:28,360 Jon Gabrus foundation which is locally 1763 01:12:33,210 --> 01:12:30,310 here that does good for people with 1764 01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:33,220 autism and families who have you know 1765 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:35,800 children they love her autistic goodness 1766 01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:39,250 so you know it's it's really you know I 1767 01:12:46,260 --> 01:12:43,510 opening and nice to hear you know erent 1768 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:46,270 you know not a scientist not a not a 1769 01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:49,690 doctor not you know but a person who 1770 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:52,000 took the time to research and have the 1771 01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:54,010 passion to follow through the way that 1772 01:12:58,620 --> 01:12:56,800 you did in you know trying to make a 1773 01:13:00,840 --> 01:12:58,630 difference and you know open the eyes of 1774 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:00,850 other parents and other people you know 1775 01:13:06,570 --> 01:13:03,250 in hopes of reducing the chances of 1776 01:13:08,910 --> 01:13:06,580 autism and occurring so I mean I really 1777 01:13:12,030 --> 01:13:08,920 commend you for your efforts and and the 1778 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:12,040 fight will keep and continue yeah well 1779 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:13,210 the thing is we had to keep beating the 1780 01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:16,090 drum and thank you for very generous 1781 01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:18,790 compliments and to me it wasn't anything 1782 01:13:22,350 --> 01:13:20,920 I'm doing to make myself better or make 1783 01:13:24,690 --> 01:13:22,360 money certainly not going to get rich 1784 01:13:26,970 --> 01:13:24,700 doing this but you know I realized that 1785 01:13:29,790 --> 01:13:26,980 there's an issue there's a problem and I 1786 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:29,800 I just hope everybody gets a chance or 1787 01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:31,330 somebody gets a chance to look at this 1788 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:33,040 if I can make a difference in one 1789 01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:35,410 percent of the people that that are 1790 01:13:39,660 --> 01:13:37,600 affected by this disorder or you know 1791 01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:39,670 just reach out to some people maybe 1792 01:13:44,580 --> 01:13:42,400 it'll make a change for some people yeah 1793 01:13:47,250 --> 01:13:44,590 we've got a few minutes left so I mean 1794 01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:47,260 if there is something that you know you 1795 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:50,710 truly I mean I know that you want to 1796 01:13:56,010 --> 01:13:53,290 inform people that I mean with education 1797 01:14:00,270 --> 01:13:56,020 comes responsibility and do you think 1798 01:14:02,220 --> 01:14:00,280 that you know parents are not I mean so 1799 01:14:04,650 --> 01:14:02,230 you're given this information they know 1800 01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:04,660 that this these vaccines could 1801 01:14:10,020 --> 01:14:07,120 potentially cause problems but they go 1802 01:14:12,150 --> 01:14:10,030 ahead anyways I mean do you blame the 1803 01:14:14,490 --> 01:14:12,160 parent or do you I mean do you blame the 1804 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:14,500 the pharmaceutical company do you do you 1805 01:14:18,030 --> 01:14:16,330 blame society because they're like you 1806 01:14:19,650 --> 01:14:18,040 better get your child vaccinated or 1807 01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:19,660 you're going to expose my child I mean 1808 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:22,480 where do you point the finger we can 1809 01:14:26,770 --> 01:14:24,610 point fingers all we want but I think 1810 01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:26,780 it's our responsibility again as parents 1811 01:14:30,670 --> 01:14:29,510 to educate ourselves the writing this 1812 01:14:32,860 --> 01:14:30,680 book was the hardest thing I'll ever do 1813 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:32,870 in my life i don't know that i'll write 1814 01:14:37,630 --> 01:14:35,690 this on this topic again unless you know 1815 01:14:41,470 --> 01:14:37,640 it i'd need a couple years to recover 1816 01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:41,480 from this it's hard right well of all 1817 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:43,040 the information out there you have to 1818 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:44,570 sift through what what is good what is 1819 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:46,130 bad what is factual what is in factual 1820 01:14:51,220 --> 01:14:49,010 right and you know being it was the 1821 01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:51,230 hardest thing I'll ever do you know I 1822 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:53,360 feel a sense of accomplishment and I 1823 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:55,250 feel that you know I do have something 1824 01:14:58,990 --> 01:14:56,810 valuable to share with people and they 1825 01:15:00,970 --> 01:14:59,000 don't have to go through the heartache 1826 01:15:03,550 --> 01:15:00,980 that I did of 10,000 hours to just get a 1827 01:15:05,770 --> 01:15:03,560 little bit of information and and go 1828 01:15:08,020 --> 01:15:05,780 from there so it again it's just like a 1829 01:15:10,660 --> 01:15:08,030 quick owner's manual on what's going on 1830 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:10,670 that's all it is and and it's it's it's 1831 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:14,090 well-written uh and it's it's just it's 1832 01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:16,250 a great it's a great narrative and story 1833 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:18,110 as well it's not just a book full of 1834 01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:20,210 facts and think what we already got some 1835 01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:22,400 suggestions in the chat room and as I 1836 01:15:27,310 --> 01:15:24,110 was suggesting you know sudden adult 1837 01:15:29,020 --> 01:15:27,320 death syndrome you know that's a topic 1838 01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:29,030 and people are saying follow it up with 1839 01:15:33,010 --> 01:15:31,490 a book on Alzheimer's disease i mean i 1840 01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:33,020 think you're going to find that a lot of 1841 01:15:37,420 --> 01:15:34,670 the research that you found in regards 1842 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:37,430 to children you don't have have effects 1843 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:39,890 on the adult population because you know 1844 01:15:44,590 --> 01:15:42,050 we get vaccines too and you know they 1845 01:15:46,570 --> 01:15:44,600 got hepatitis vaccination that they're 1846 01:15:48,690 --> 01:15:46,580 suggesting and there's the pneumonia 1847 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:48,700 vaccine there's a flu vaccine i mean 1848 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:52,010 there's a I mean there's several out 1849 01:15:55,300 --> 01:15:53,570 there there that are popping up that 1850 01:15:57,460 --> 01:15:55,310 they're saying get this for your teen so 1851 01:16:00,160 --> 01:15:57,470 they don't ever get this or get that and 1852 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:00,170 it's like come on where does it end and 1853 01:16:05,170 --> 01:16:02,690 is it worth it i think i think the bug 1854 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:05,180 is in you to not stop this fight in 1855 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:08,210 general yeah hey listen I never wanted 1856 01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:09,770 to write a book on autism and I would 1857 01:16:13,180 --> 01:16:10,880 have laughed if he told me three years 1858 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:13,190 ago you're gonna write one yeah I I 1859 01:16:17,860 --> 01:16:15,890 wanted to write a book you know not 1860 01:16:20,890 --> 01:16:17,870 anything but autism and once it got 1861 01:16:22,660 --> 01:16:20,900 involved and step by step I don't know 1862 01:16:24,610 --> 01:16:22,670 if people believe in divine intervention 1863 01:16:26,590 --> 01:16:24,620 or coincidence but I I subscribe to the 1864 01:16:29,050 --> 01:16:26,600 theory of divine intervention so oh we 1865 01:16:31,090 --> 01:16:29,060 do on this show too and yeah if people 1866 01:16:32,530 --> 01:16:31,100 are like the passion and his voice is so 1867 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:32,540 convincing they're saying in the chat 1868 01:16:38,170 --> 01:16:35,570 room you've been marked this is it this 1869 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:38,180 is this is your this is your your goal 1870 01:16:42,890 --> 01:16:39,810 in life your mission 1871 01:16:44,570 --> 01:16:42,900 yeah so be it right yeah exactly you 1872 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:44,580 know I don't believe in coincidences I 1873 01:16:51,530 --> 01:16:47,250 think it will be yeah Moses never wanted 1874 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:51,540 to free the people eater so I my 1875 01:16:56,900 --> 01:16:53,610 goodness and look at that that name goes 1876 01:16:58,730 --> 01:16:56,910 down in history right yeah my goodness 1877 01:17:01,160 --> 01:16:58,740 well you know I have to say your family 1878 01:17:02,660 --> 01:17:01,170 must be awfully proud and I mean what 1879 01:17:05,060 --> 01:17:02,670 are the odds your dad writes a book on 1880 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:05,070 the topic and boom here you are your 1881 01:17:09,980 --> 01:17:07,410 first book is on the topic and your next 1882 01:17:12,230 --> 01:17:09,990 book it's gonna be something around the 1883 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:12,240 this topic as well I just know you again 1884 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:13,650 they have another one you can't stop 1885 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:16,530 I've written I've got six published 1886 01:17:19,790 --> 01:17:18,330 books and I have like six more sitting 1887 01:17:21,380 --> 01:17:19,800 here waiting to be published it just it 1888 01:17:25,820 --> 01:17:21,390 gets in your skin and you just keep 1889 01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:25,830 going but Johnny Micah I really I want 1890 01:17:28,510 --> 01:17:27,120 to thank you so much for coming on the 1891 01:17:30,740 --> 01:17:28,520 show tonight it was really a pleasure 1892 01:17:32,930 --> 01:17:30,750 well it's the pleasures been all mine 1893 01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:32,940 this is both humbling and and I are at 1894 01:17:36,890 --> 01:17:35,310 the same time oh my goodness I can't say 1895 01:17:38,660 --> 01:17:36,900 enough about about your show and the 1896 01:17:42,770 --> 01:17:38,670 good it does and the fact that I had 1897 01:17:44,810 --> 01:17:42,780 this this moment to speak oh are you 1898 01:17:46,700 --> 01:17:44,820 kidding me i was like what he's writing 1899 01:17:50,300 --> 01:17:46,710 on this I've got to get this guy on the 1900 01:17:52,220 --> 01:17:50,310 show hey truly truly wow just 1901 01:17:53,690 --> 01:17:52,230 fascinating thank you thank you and you 1902 01:17:55,250 --> 01:17:53,700 know what don't be surprised if I have 1903 01:17:57,230 --> 01:17:55,260 you come back on because I think people 1904 01:17:59,420 --> 01:17:57,240 are eating this up so maybe later on 1905 01:18:02,630 --> 01:17:59,430 I'll be bugging you again so we'll chat 1906 01:18:04,460 --> 01:18:02,640 on it some more so well yeah so you guys 1907 01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:04,470 once again we're coming to the 1908 01:18:08,330 --> 01:18:07,110 conclusion of another program remember 1909 01:18:10,580 --> 01:18:08,340 you could catch me here every Friday 1910 01:18:11,930 --> 01:18:10,590 night p.m. Eastern a p.m. central you've 1911 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:11,940 been listening to me heidi hollis at the 1912 01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:13,650 Outlander on inception radio network 1913 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:15,360 remembering always if it's weird we're